From wrenchwench at blast.com Tue Jun 2 10:24:16 2009 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:24:16 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Community-scale Biodiesel Workshop Held at Appalachian June 19-20 References: <0016e64b907881cf0a046b5cfe37@google.com> Message-ID: <364CB126-966C-4A97-834F-C33E66B65969@blast.com> Community-scale Biodiesel Workshop Held at Appalachian June 19-20 Jun 1, 2009 - BiobasedNews.com (press release) BOONE?Experts from Appalachian State University?s Energy Center will lead a workshop on community-scale biodiesel production June 19 and 20. This workshop will be held in Room 178 Harper Hall on campus and will include field work at the university?s Biodiesel and Education Research Lab. The workshop will focus on sustainable community-scale biodiesel production with classroom and hands-on components. The workshop costs $150 for students and $300 for nonstudents. Registration begins at 12:30 p.m. Friday, June 19. The workshop runs from 1-6 p.m. June 19 and from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. June 20. For more information about the university?s biodiesel facility, visit http://biodiesel.appstate.edu/ . To register for the workshop, visit http://wind.appstate.edu/ and click on 2009 Renewable Energy Workshops and follow the appropriate Web links. http://www.biobasednews.com/node/21751 From tumbleweed_60477 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 2 10:29:39 2009 From: tumbleweed_60477 at yahoo.com (Mike) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] jetta TDI 1996-2006 Message-ID: <908761.73020.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> 1) in general is this vehicle any good 2) what are the main concerns with WVO, fuel line hoses, pumps, filters vs 3) biofuel? thx 4 any info Mike Dee From dieselfahrer99 at gmail.com Tue Jun 2 20:43:04 2009 From: dieselfahrer99 at gmail.com (D. Fahrer) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:43:04 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] 1985 Mercedes 300SD for sale, 162, 000 miles, original paint -- $1800. Message-ID: <25BD5C2F-CE38-4B39-91BB-01BD6DFE2F16@gmail.com> This car was owned since new by my grandfather, and it's not the sort of car for me, though it is in very nice condition. It is silver, and the interior is navy blue leather. He always took very good care of it, and he bought it new here in North Carolina. The car runs well, and everything works. I don't know much about these cars, so the best thing is for anyone who is interested to come and see the car, because I don't know enough to answer questions by email, so I am not even going to try. I can show it almost any evening between 7:30 and 9:30 P.M. If you want to see the car, I need at least one day advance notice, in order to make sure I don't have other commitments. - Bruce From panthercat at gmail.com Tue Jun 2 21:25:10 2009 From: panthercat at gmail.com (Carlos Thompson) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:25:10 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] jetta TDI 1996-2006 In-Reply-To: <908761.73020.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <908761.73020.qm@web54506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4b6e46c90906021825m6a56d3b1qda4d3b756bcbb9c@mail.gmail.com> 1) I love my 04 TDI, just can't beat the combination of mpg and a little pep when you need it, like the new commercial says. 2) I don't do WVO, but i know a lot of people on this list do. My brother has WVO on his '01 non-PD-TDI engine and he loves it. I don't know if PD-TDI's like WVO... 3) This has been discussed thoroughly before on this list, but when I bought my TDI, I did not know about the newer PD-TDI engine that came out in 04+. It is a newer engine and apparently what I have learned on this list is that the PD-TDI do not fair well with B100 due to the higher viscosity. Someone emailed a long time ago a very long informative discussion on this. I only use B20 just to be safe, especially when I was in warranty. On the flipside I have friends with brand new 08/09 TDI's (with PD engine) that use B100 with no problems, and I'm sure others on this list will chime in on their successful use of B100 in PD-TDI's, now that I have said this! Still waiting on the U.S. A4 TDI that was promised in '07....pisses me off when I see them all over europe, Carlos On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Mike wrote: > > 1) in general is this vehicle any good > > 2) what are the main concerns with WVO, fuel line hoses, pumps, filters > > vs > > 3) biofuel? > > thx 4 any info > > Mike Dee > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From tavanas at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 15:36:54 2009 From: tavanas at gmail.com (t avanas) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:36:54 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] can i ? Message-ID: i have about 50 gallons of filtered WVO and would like to use it in my unmodified diesel. my question is cam i burn a 50/50 mix of WVO + diesel in an 10 year old unmodified diesel engine without any harm? thanks, tavanas at gmail.com From galaxyofblue at aim.com Fri Jun 5 13:14:08 2009 From: galaxyofblue at aim.com (galaxyofblue at aim.com) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:14:08 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] For Sale 1985 MB 300D WVO converted Message-ID: <4A295260.9050307@aim.com> Mechanically great car, comes with centrifugal WVO filter/dewatering and lots of accessories. Would make for a great start into WVO! See link below for complete for-sale ad with photos and full details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=252292 Car is located in Asheville but pickup can be arranged in Durham as well. Doug Moore 919-218-7077 From tomjarrett at alumni.unc.edu Sat Jun 13 15:54:05 2009 From: tomjarrett at alumni.unc.edu (thomas jarrett) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] FW: SCIENCE: Biomass to electricity is more efficient than cellulosic biofuel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <126f11ed0906131254y7c66beb7y36f91e4857fc5c2f@mail.gmail.com> Here is a follow up in the lay press of this Science article for those following it. -tom thomas m. jarrett Durham County, NC BusinessWeek: Running vehicles on biofuels such as ethanol reduces CO2 emissions and offers a way to lessen the world's reliance on oil. While this sounds great from an environmental perspective, the energy required to produce the biofuel and the land clearing for crops that can result means biofuels aren't necessarily the environmentally friendly solution they initially appear to be. Recognizing this, researchers have analyzed the best way to maximize the "miles per acre" from biomass and discovered that the far more efficient option is to convert the biomass to electricity, rather than ethanol. Another tick for the electric car. Read the whole story: BusinessWeek http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/may2009/bw20090521_951123.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_lifestyle On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, John Bonitz wrote: > > Friends of biofuels, > > Fighting our addiction to oil often means seriously re-examining our > assumptions. ?Some of us already understand that biomass to electricity is > more efficient than cellulosic biofuel, but here?s new science to prove it. > To my mind this does not diminish the immediate need for continued pursuit > of advanced biofuels. ?But it does underscore the temporary role biofuels > must play, on the path to evermore frugal use of energy. > > There was a great piece on National Public Radio recently that presented a > very sophisticated argument on this subject: ?A new study published in > Science Magazine shows that converting biomass to electricity is more > efficient than turning it into ethanol: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103926737 > (NOTE: Ignore the headline: No one is proposing to burn ethanol to make > electricity...) > > Here are links to more detailed articles on the same story: > http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-05/um-ssb050509.php > > If you'd prefer the un-filtered scientific story, here it is: > > http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;1168885v1?maxtoshow=&HITS > =10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=biomass+merced&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&re > sourcetype=HWCIT > > Finally, for those who are excited about the concept of electric vehicles > fueled by renewable electricity, in a moment I will circulate an > announcement for an outstanding event coming up in less than two weeks. > > John > > ~ ~ ~ > > John Bonitz, > Farm Outreach & Policy Advocate > Southern Alliance for Clean Energy > PO Box 1833, Pittsboro, NC ?27312 > Phone: 919-360-2492 > Email: bonitz at cleanenergy.org > Web: http://www.cleanenergy.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group -- Live in NC? ?Please go to and sign on to the letter supporting collective bargaining for NC public employees. From bonitz at cleanenergy.org Wed Jun 24 11:08:43 2009 From: bonitz at cleanenergy.org (John Bonitz) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel from soy not driving Amazonian deforestation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greenpeace says biodiesel demand is not a significant driver of Amazon deforestation http://www.biodieselmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=3524 In Brazil, a comprehensive report in Biodiesel Magazine on deforestation and soy cultivation quotes Greenpeace in saying that "Biodiesel demand for soy oil is not seen as a significant driver of Amazon deforestation. Most of the soya grown in Brazil including what is grown on illegal plantations is for animal and human consumption, and right now the Brazilian government is investing in other feedstocks for the development of its biofuels program." -- John Bonitz Farm Outreach & Policy Advocate Southern Alliance for Clean Energy P.O. Box 1833, Pittsboro, NC 27312 Phone: 919.360.2492 bonitz at cleanenergy.org http://www.cleanenergy.org From ddarovsky at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 14:57:19 2009 From: ddarovsky at gmail.com (Daniel Kolomeets-Darovsky) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Houston Biodiesel plant for sale Message-ID: http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/houston-biodiesel-plant-for-sale/ any takers? -- Daniel Boris Kolomeets-Darovsky, LEED? AP Masters of Environmental Management, Candidate 2010 Energy and Environment Duke University - Nicholas School of the Environment http://nicholas.duke.edu/ e-mail: ddarovsky at gmail.com cell phone: (210) 862-9905 From rudolfdiesel at netzero.net Fri Jun 26 23:45:05 2009 From: rudolfdiesel at netzero.net (rudolfdiesel at netzero.net) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:45:05 GMT Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] FYI--from "Today's Trucking" Message-ID: <20090626.234505.22570.1@webmail08.dca.untd.com> I can send the full study to anyone who is interested. --Rich Cregar Study clears the air on diesel emissions 06/24/2009 ARLINGTON, Va. -- A study released this week shows that diesel engines manufactured since 2007 not only reduced certain emissions by 90 percent over 2004 models, but -- get this: "exceeded substantially even those levels required by law." And before you naysayers whine that the study must have come from the diesel people themselves, point out that it was commissioned by none other than the U.S. Department of Energy, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, the California Air Resources Board and the Engine Manufacturers Association. It was conducted by the Coordinating Research Council and the Health Effects institute. Current engine models produced 98 percent less carbon monoxide, 10 percent less nitrogen oxide, 95 percent less non-methane hydrocarbons and 89 percent less particulate matter than required by EPA's 2007 diesel engine emission standards. Commented American Trucking Associations president and CEO Bill Graves: "These latest emissions figures are a testament to the trucking and engine manufacturing industries' deep commitment to the environment.? New engines built to 2010 standards will be even cleaner, slashing nitrogen oxide emissions by another 50 percent. In addition to reducing emissions through clean diesel, "diesel engines are the workhorses of the nation's transportation infrastructure because they are fuel efficient, durable and reliable," said Jed Mandel, president of the Engine Manufacturers Association. "We can now add near-zero emissions to the list of diesel's positive attributes." ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYdhtSZAm9nHO8jPrfkRqjMyobMPVenR9FPlxaWA0oSbLo24cz1HDi/ From dieselfahrer99 at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 06:57:53 2009 From: dieselfahrer99 at gmail.com (D. Fahrer) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:57:53 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] FYI--from "Today's Trucking" Message-ID: > And before you naysayers whine that the study must have come from > the diesel people themselves, point out that it was commissioned by > none other than the U.S. Department of Energy, the U.S. > Environmental Protection Agency, the California Air Resources Board > and the Engine Manufacturers Association. Of course, we all know the EPA and CARB have never been wrong about anything ... And the Engine Manufacturers Association -- they couldn't possibly have an agenda, could they ? Nahhh. They only have the best interests of the public at heart, the same as GM did when it did so much to eradicate public transportation from the US. From dieselfahrer99 at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 07:46:08 2009 From: dieselfahrer99 at gmail.com (D. Fahrer) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:46:08 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Car for sale? References: <73d4842d0906250557i670860d4ndab1e619ade2c078@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I wish to warn other members of the biofuels list about the antics of a character who "hangs out" on this list ( his email address can be seen below ). He : 1) showed up almost an hour late for an appointment to see a car owned by a guy I know. The excuse supplied for his tardiness was "lunch took longer than I thought". Most people wouldn't consider that a valid reason for lateness, of course, whereas a flat tire etc. would be a different case. and 2) As can be seen below, he tried to lowball me on a car by offering less than half of the $1900 asking price ( this is similar to typical Craigslist bottom-feeder behavior, but some of us don't want to deal with such things because our time is valuable and we are only trying to sell a car for a fair price ). Begin forwarded message: > From: DaveO57 > Date: June 25, 2009 8:57:52 AM EDT > To: dieselfahrer99 at gmail.com > Subject: Car for sale? > > > > Hi Bruce, > > Would your gfather take 800 for the car? > > Dave From mattr at biofuels.coop Tue Jun 30 08:53:15 2009 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:53:15 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Good opinion piece by John Sheehan Message-ID: <4E3D425D-7361-4DCE-9605-00D4D71DB802@biofuels.coop> Biofuels and the conundrum of sustainability Sustainable energy is the problem of the 21st century. If biofuels want to be part of the solution they must accept a degree of scrutiny unprecedented in the development of a new industry. That is because sustainability deals explicitly with the role of biofuels in ensuring the well-being of our planet, our economy, and our society both today and in the future. Life cycle assessment (LCA) has been the standard framework for assessing sustainability of biofuels. These assessments show that corn ethanol has a marginally lower fossil energy and greenhouse gas footprint compared to petroleum fuel. Sugarcane ethanol and some forms of biodiesel offer substantially lower footprints. New biofuels may offer low footprints. The science of LCA is being stretched to its limits as policy makers consider direct and indirect effects of biofuels on global land and water resources, global ecosystems, air quality, public health, and social justice. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.copbio.2009.05.010