From wrenchwench at blast.com Mon Mar 3 21:19:41 2008 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:19:41 -0500 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Researchers band together to make biofuels more efficient Message-ID: <3744E057-7B8C-4CEB-B273-0831B49BE750@blast.com> http://www.coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/ UPDATES01/80218035 It?s not as simple as growing corn, processing it and then pouring it in the gas tank to run an engine. Biofuels, or alternative fuels produced from biological materials like plants, may seem like a simple, positive solution to depleting oil reserves and harmful carbon emissions, but there?s a lot to consider. ?If we want this to be a sustainable approach, you have to consider the activity on so many levels,? said Dan Bush, professor and chair of the biology department at Colorado State University. For example, some biodiesels lower carbon emissions, but increase other harmful air pollutants. A team of researchers from CSU, the University of Colorado, Colorado School of Mines and the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden have teamed up to create the Colorado Center for Biorefining and Biofuels or C2B2. The group, which comprises more than 200 researchers -- approximately 64 of them at CSU -- combined the expertise of an array of scientists to study new biofuels, how they work and their implications for society. C2B2 was founded in 2007 and is built around a network of business sponsors who put money into the organization for research. For its first year, C2B2 has a $2 million budget. ?We?re taking on a very important societal problem,? said Ken Reardonthe CSU site director for C2B2 and a CSU a professor of chemical engineering. ?The country needs some solution of where we?re going to find energy and we need it soon.? From mweaver at misteam.net Tue Mar 4 07:09:39 2008 From: mweaver at misteam.net (Mike Weaver) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:09:39 -0500 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Virginia Biodiesel-related - slightly off-topic In-Reply-To: <3744E057-7B8C-4CEB-B273-0831B49BE750@blast.com> References: <3744E057-7B8C-4CEB-B273-0831B49BE750@blast.com> Message-ID: <47CD3C03.7050103@misteam.net> Greetings, A group of biodiesel proponents/fans/supporters have started a fledgling biodiesel coop (still in planning stages) here in Northern Virginia. It's still early in the process, but if anyone on BIG is in NOVA and would like to check out our list, the site is: www.novabiodiesel.org I visited Piedmont a few years ago and learned a lot - I credit it with helping get up the steam to be a part of launching this project, so a big Thanks! to Rachel, Leif and the gang. Sincerely, Mike Weaver From tavanas at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 13:20:41 2008 From: tavanas at gmail.com (t avanas) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:20:41 -0500 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] for sale: 1987 Mercedes Benz 300TD Message-ID: <47CD92F9.1010009@gmail.com> details @ http://raleigh.craigslist.org/car/595125836.html From jlwattersj at nc.rr.com Mon Mar 10 20:17:05 2008 From: jlwattersj at nc.rr.com (Jay Watters) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:17:05 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Containers Message-ID: <000d01c88315$a1b7ac60$6502a8c0@jay> Does anyone in central N.C. have any sealable 2 to 5 gallon containers? Jay Watters jlwattersj at nc.rr.com 919-345-8956 From rudolfdiesel at netzero.net Mon Mar 10 21:01:16 2008 From: rudolfdiesel at netzero.net (rudolfdiesel at netzero.net) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:01:16 GMT Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Workshop near the beautiful New River Gorge in WV, 3/29 Message-ID: <20080310.220116.11939.1@webmail17.dca.untd.com> CONTACT: West Virginia Sustainable Communities Project 304-574-1444 West Virginia Sustainable Communities Project to host Biodiesel Workshop Fayetteville, W.Va. ? The West Virginia Sustainable Communities Project will be sponsoring a forum and workshop on creating biodiesel to be held at Country Roads Cabins Office in Hico, WV from 10:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. on Saturday, March 29th. Rich Cregar, of Raleigh N.C. and primary author of a nationally acclaimed curriculum on biodiesel, will explain the sources and processing of biodiesel, the components of a biodiesel processing system and how each operates, ASTM D6751 standards for biodiesel quality, safety procedures needed to work with biodiesel, and engineering, economic, and environmental issues related to biodiesel. Three local biodiesel processors will then discuss their own experiences in creating a biodiesel facility and executing the process of utilizing this relatively untapped resource. Jess Whittemore processes biodiesel in his garage in Friendsville, Maryland, Matt Tate uses a water heater processor in Pocohontas County, WV, and Sally Shepherd is assisting in the production of biodiesel at West Virginia State University. A Q&A session will follow with the panel of experts. We will then discuss the opportunity to create a Fayette County biodiesel cooperative. The biodiesel experts will advise us in the proper steps to follow to make this a reality. Biodiesel is a form of diesel fuel that is produced from vegetable oil. This method of fuel production has become popular in recent years, relying on the used vegetable oil donations of local restaurants. Biodiesel burns much cleaner than traditional diesel fuel and is carbon neutral. Directions to Country Roads Cabins Office ? Route 19 to Route 60 (Midland Trail). Take Route 60 west towards Ansted. Turn right onto Sunday Road. Country Roads Cabins office is ? mile on the right. _____________________________________________________________ Click here for free info on Graduate Degrees. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4uInjerVEl6tfRCrbqoCOL3dEyZOYtwaHs1MknlHjKlWEoi2/ From tavanas at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 20:18:11 2008 From: tavanas at gmail.com (t avanas) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:18:11 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] ISO B100 Message-ID: <47D72F53.5010005@gmail.com> folks, we are down to our last 50 gals of "chicken fat" b100 so we are in the market for about 600-700 gallons delivered to my farm in apex. any leads for local suppliers and prices will be appreciated. thanks saeed One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato 427-347 BC From mapmantx at yahoo.com Wed Mar 12 10:02:16 2008 From: mapmantx at yahoo.com (John Hollingsworth) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Regional (Lower Atlantic) Petrodiesel average price at $3.81 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <952978.65241.qm@web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Up a quarter in just two weeks. http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp John Hollingsworth ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From ncminuteman at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 11:30:57 2008 From: ncminuteman at gmail.com (Denton) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:30:57 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Chesapeake Bay bacteria leads to bioethanol from waste Message-ID: <47D80541.4070107@gmail.com> Chesapeake Bay bacteria leads to bioethanol from waste http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2008/03/11/chesapeake-bay-bacteria-leads-to-bioethanol-from-waste From ncminuteman at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 12:00:25 2008 From: ncminuteman at gmail.com (Denton) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:00:25 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Chesapeake Bay bacteria leads to bioethanol from waste Message-ID: <47DAAF29.4040208@gmail.com> http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2008/03/11/chesapeake-bay-bacteria-leads-to-bioethanol-from-waste From girlmark_list_email at localb100.com Fri Mar 14 12:03:45 2008 From: girlmark_list_email at localb100.com (girl Mark) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] North Carolina and Florida biodiesel production classes this spring Message-ID: <1702.76.21.40.108.1205514225.squirrel@webmail.localb100.com> Biodiesel Production Classes with Maria 'girl Mark' Alovert Spring-summer 2008 www.girlmark.com/tour Detailed class descriptions at bottom of this post: Wilmington, NC: Biodiesel Production Crash Course April 4: Introduction To Biodiesel Homebrewing April 5-6 Biodiesel Production System Tricks (must have prior experience or attend Friday class first) These are two separate classes, you may take both or just one depending on your level of experience and interest. Sponsored by Cape Fear Biofuels ************************************** Brooksville, FL April 26-27 Advanced Topics biodiesel class (must have prior experience or have attended an introductory class- some of my recent students are offering a class in Tampa on March 30, see www.groups.yahoo.com/group/FloridaBiodiesel): ************************************** Biodiesel Production Series Pittsboro, NC: various dates. You may attend one of all of the classes depending on your experience and interest. May 3-4 Biodiesel Essentials (no experience required) June 14-15 Equipment Building Intensive (no experience required) June 28-29 Biodiesel Production System Tricks (must have prior experience or Essentials/Introduction class) July 26-27 Advanced Topics (must have prior experience or Essentials/Introduction class) All proceeds from Pittsboro classes benefit Piedmont Biofuels biodiesel internship program ************************************** Descriptions of classes: One-day Introduction To Biodiesel Homebrewing April 4, 9-5, Wilmington, NC also offered near Chicago in May: May 30, 9-5 Grayslake, IL No Experience necessary $75 Introduction To Biodiesel Homebrewing class: This is a one-day, sped-up version of my usual weekend Biodiesel Essentials class. Biodiesel Essentials: Pittsboro, NC May 3-4 also offered in: Marietta, OH, May 17-18 Oklahoma City, OK area June 21-22 Central New Mexico, location to be announced, August 9-10 $120, class is 10-4 each day Sat and Sunday Two-day class for either beginners or those who want a refresher on quality control. This is similar to Introduction To Homebrewing, but includes much more time to cover more information, more hands-on time, and a three-hour equipment building sesssion or 'lab' session to explore topics you're interested in in more depth. , Some topics covered: biodiesel/SVO/solvent thinning options and history, biodiesel chemistry, testing oil (titration and water testing), (hands-on), making test batches (hands-on), an overview of equipment, a tour of the full Appleseed-type for the Wilmington, Grayslake, and Pittsboro classes, long discussion of quality control factors, quality testing (hands-on), mistwashing and other water washing options, breaking emulsion (hands-on), two-stage base biodiesel, waste water and glycerine disposal, water reuse and uses for glycerine, common pitfalls, hands-on experience recovering from failed batches and emulsion, safety ********************************************************** Two-day Reactor Mechanics and System Tricks Class 10-4 each day Wilmington, NC, April 5-6 or Pittsboro, NC, June 28-29 Must have prior exprience or attend the Introduction class on Friday April 4 or any Biodiesel Essentials class I offer $120, 9-5 This class is geared to people who already know how to make biodiesel, either in a lab-scale or one-liter setting, or to who already homebrew but would like to compare notes with me on how I manage my system. You may also take this class if you are new to biodiesel but have attended a regular homebrewing class taught by someone else. We dont go into a lot of detail on titration and chemistry here so that?s the info you should have ?down? already on your own prior to taking this 'system tricks' class. If you feel like you've researched biodiesel production heavily but have little practical experience this is probably the best of my classes for you if you can already titrate oil and make test batches, and understand the basic steps involved. In the System Tricks class we make a full-size batches of biodiesel in the Appleseed processor, wash the batch in a heavily modified drum-based wash tank, discuss Graham Laming EcoSystem vapor recovery piping for safety, and discuss methanol recovery (and POSSIBLY run the still in the Wilmington class, depending on our site's electrical availability, which currently has me limited to insufficient power to run all the equipment at once). We will cover a lot of the finer details that make the process efficient, safer, produce higher quality fuel, cheaper, and produce fewer messes. We will run a multifuel Turk Burner and discuss ways to safely heat using waste oil burners and glycerine-burning methods. *************************************************************** Biodiesel Equipment Building Intensive: Pittsboro, NC June 14-15 This class builds equipment and includes a heavy emphasis on system design and equipment theory. This two-day class will build a reactor, including a possible Apple Turnover system, a methanol recovery condensor, inexpensive homebuilt pumps, wash tanks, other washing equipment, methanol/lye mixing equipment, and a Graham Laming-style EcoSystem vapor recovery system. Contact me if you'd like to purchase parts to build any of this for yourself. In addition, the Pittsboro class will include a tour of the Piedmont Biodiesel Co-op and we will discuss their equipment and it's advantages and shortcomings. We will discuss experimental continuous process equipment as well. *************************************************************** Advanced Topics Class 9-5 each day April 26-27 Brooksville, FL July 26-27 Pittsboro, NC Must have prior experience or attend a beginners' class. Florida folks, see www.groups.yahoo.com/group/FloridaBiodiesel for info on a March 30 class taught by three of my recent students. Pittsboro attendees without experience should attend any of my other Introduction or Essentials classes in the area first. Topics covered: Strong focus on quality control, analysis of real-world problems with offspec biodiesel, acid-base biodiesel process, advanced topics in dewatering, testing for soap, methanol recovery and equipment design, testing recovered methanol for purity, waterless washing with Amberlite, Magnesol, and Graham Laming's process, larger-scale equipment design, ethanol-based and E-85-based biodiesel, treating wash water and glycerine for disposal, testing wash water and glycerine, real-world test results related to biodegradability, in-depth disposal/sidestreams discussion burning glycerine safely for energy, hydronic applications for biodiesel and wash water heating, more advanced discussion of safety and disaster prevention scenarios for larger-scale processor systems, discussion of regulatory topics for non-commercial producers larger than homebrew, solar heating options, very through discussion/demonstration of several different options in washing, including drawbacks and advantages, greywater systems for wash water recycling. The Pittsboro Advanced Topics Class will include a tour of the Piedmont Biofuels Co-op site, a discussion of a continuous process used by the co-op, and a tour of the biodiesel analytical laboratory at Central Carolina Community College. The Brooksville Fl Advanced Topics Class will include attendees with a lot of experience with the BioPro processor and the GL1 (Eco-System) methanol recovery/waterless washing process. From bearman at carolina.rr.com Fri Mar 14 15:11:15 2008 From: bearman at carolina.rr.com (David Conner) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:11:15 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biofuell Guide Book In-Reply-To: <952978.65241.qm@web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rachael, I attended one of your classes about 2 years ago in Henderson, NC at the agriculture center. You had Biofuel guide books that you had made printed copies and sold them for $25 Dollars I think, but you sold out and I didn't get one. Anyway do you still have any of those guide books. Thanks, David Conner From sjhr2000 at mailcan.com Mon Mar 17 11:07:46 2008 From: sjhr2000 at mailcan.com (Steve Rankin) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:07:46 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Cellulosic ethanol article Message-ID: <1205770066.22403.1242854071@webmail.messagingengine.com> http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/3/3/125745/7746 (sorry if this was already posted, it's a few weeks old) -- Steve J. Rankin sjhr2000 at mailcan.com From biodiesel at yovo.info Tue Mar 18 10:18:56 2008 From: biodiesel at yovo.info (Jurgen Henn) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:18:56 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement Message-ID: <47DFDD60.10408@yovo.info> TDI biodieselers: does anyone have a recommendation for a shop that can replace the seals of the IP for an '02 Jetta? Mine is leaking and I want the seal replaced with viton seals. Thanks! Jurgen -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J?rgen Henn 2002 Jetta TDI 1991 Mercedes 300D http://words.yovo.info/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From kcfoxie at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 12:58:32 2008 From: kcfoxie at gmail.com (Chris Browder) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:58:32 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement In-Reply-To: <47DFDD60.10408@yovo.info> References: <47DFDD60.10408@yovo.info> Message-ID: <25694BF9-B0F0-407F-8B3A-8ACEE070AFCE@gmail.com> Jurgen, I have no experience with this shop, however Peak Automotive of Apex and Raleigh and BOSCH authorized repair centers. They should be capable of replacing the injection pump, as I believe it is a BOSCH part. http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/june2006/shoprof.cfm On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Jurgen Henn wrote: > TDI biodieselers: > does anyone have a recommendation for a shop that can replace the > seals > of the IP for an '02 Jetta? Mine is leaking and I want the seal > replaced > with viton seals. Thanks! > > Jurgen > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > J?rgen Henn > 2002 Jetta TDI > 1991 Mercedes 300D > > http://words.yovo.info/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From kcfoxie at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 14:34:25 2008 From: kcfoxie at gmail.com (Chris Browder) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:34:25 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement In-Reply-To: <25694BF9-B0F0-407F-8B3A-8ACEE070AFCE@gmail.com> References: <47DFDD60.10408@yovo.info> <25694BF9-B0F0-407F-8B3A-8ACEE070AFCE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Correction: I called and PEAK cannot help us. THEY DID suggest, as John from PEAK asked the owner, that we contact: Diesel Injection of Cary 233 E Johnson St # P Cary, NC 27513 (919) 467-2830 From phil at causative.net Tue Mar 18 17:24:07 2008 From: phil at causative.net (Phil Olinger) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:24:07 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement In-Reply-To: <47DFDD60.10408@yovo.info> References: <47DFDD60.10408@yovo.info> Message-ID: <47E04107.3070804@causative.net> I suggest Tioga Honigmann at Automotive Solutions. He's done great work on my '02 and '03 TDIs, and he has done several injection pump rebuilds for others. Automotive Solutions 2809 White Cross Road Chapel Hill, NC 27516 (919) 933-3884 Phil Olinger Jurgen Henn wrote: > TDI biodieselers: > does anyone have a recommendation for a shop that can replace the seals > of the IP for an '02 Jetta? Mine is leaking and I want the seal replaced > with viton seals. Thanks! > > Jurgen > > From rudolfdiesel at netzero.net Tue Mar 18 17:19:36 2008 From: rudolfdiesel at netzero.net (rudolfdiesel at netzero.net) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:19:36 GMT Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement Message-ID: <20080318.181936.18163.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> The Viton seal kits are available on Ebay, as are a number of shops that perform the service if you send them the pump. Diesel injection is no longer in Cary. they are now located in Garner on Mechanical Blvd. They can also do the reseal. Problem is, pump needs to come off the engine. You will need a shop with experience doing this as the TDI is timed electronically which means the shop will either need to be a dealer or own a VW OEM equivalent scan tool. (Many do)You just need to make sure when you talk to them. Rich Cregar _____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on discount teaching degrees programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4ueZ2CFrACI6Sb37CqYobnhbe32j6q0KliQ7uuFmbON9nceG/ From biodiesel at yovo.info Tue Mar 18 20:33:49 2008 From: biodiesel at yovo.info (Jurgen Henn) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:33:49 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement In-Reply-To: <20080318.181936.18163.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> References: <20080318.181936.18163.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <47E06D7D.3030100@yovo.info> Thanks for the great information, everyone. Looks like there are several talented mechanics in Central NC who can do this operation. Still, I have decided to have Absolute Automotive replace the pump with a new one. (The sucking noise in the background comes from my bank account ...) Cheers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J?rgen rudolfdiesel at netzero.net wrote: > The Viton seal kits are available on Ebay, as are a number of shops > that perform the service if you send them the pump. Diesel injection > is no longer in Cary. they are now located in Garner on Mechanical > Blvd. They can also do the reseal. Problem is, pump needs to come off > the engine. You will need a shop with experience doing this as the > TDI is timed electronically which means the shop will either need to > be a dealer or own a VW OEM equivalent scan tool. (Many do)You just > need to make sure when you talk to them. > > Rich Cregar > _____________________________________________________________ Click > for free info on discount teaching degrees programs. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4ueZ2CFrACI6Sb37CqYobnhbe32j6q0KliQ7uuFmbON9nceG/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From moldylocks at nc.rr.com Wed Mar 19 05:23:08 2008 From: moldylocks at nc.rr.com (Wayne Edmonds) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:23:08 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement In-Reply-To: <47E06D7D.3030100@yovo.info> Message-ID: <003101c889ab$3a0aac10$6701a8c0@wedmondshome> If you are at all handy: http://www.dieselgeek.com/TDI_Injection_Pump_Head_Seal_Replacement.htm I did it a little over a year ago. It was surprisingly easy. -----Original Message----- From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces at lists.emji.net [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces at lists.emji.net] On Behalf Of Jurgen Henn Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:34 PM To: biofuels_interest_group at lists.emji.net Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] injection pump seal replacement Thanks for the great information, everyone. Looks like there are several talented mechanics in Central NC who can do this operation. Still, I have decided to have Absolute Automotive replace the pump with a new one. (The sucking noise in the background comes from my bank account ...) Cheers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J?rgen rudolfdiesel at netzero.net wrote: > The Viton seal kits are available on Ebay, as are a number of shops > that perform the service if you send them the pump. Diesel injection > is no longer in Cary. they are now located in Garner on Mechanical > Blvd. They can also do the reseal. Problem is, pump needs to come off > the engine. You will need a shop with experience doing this as the > TDI is timed electronically which means the shop will either need to > be a dealer or own a VW OEM equivalent scan tool. (Many do)You just > need to make sure when you talk to them. > > Rich Cregar > _____________________________________________________________ Click > for free info on discount teaching degrees programs. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4ueZ2CFrACI6Sb37CqYobnh be32j6q0KliQ7uuFmbON9nceG/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From bonitz at cleanenergy.org Wed Mar 19 11:31:06 2008 From: bonitz at cleanenergy.org (John Bonitz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:31:06 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] On-Farm Energy Grants In-Reply-To: Message-ID: USDA Invites Applications for Renewable Energy & Energy Efficiency Grants and Loan Guarantees to Farmers and Small Rural Businesses Please be aware that the long-awaited announcement has arrived, formally opening the applications process for USDA-RD grants and loan-guarantees for renewable energy and energy efficiency investments (press release below). Feel free to forward this information to interested farmers, woodland owners, and rural businesses. For more details and contact info please see the following link: http://www.cleanenergy.org/pdf/9006Flyer.pdf (158 KB file with USDA contact information for GA, FL, NC, SC, TN.) Also, I have a list of Professional Engineers for those needing assistance in grant-writing, energy audits, or renewable energy assessments. Here are some important changes in the program for 2008: Grants: For grants, the USDA is making $15.9 million available for 2008 (though more may come later from unused loan guarantee allocations). The USDA has established two grant cycles this year, with application deadlines of April 16th and June 16th. 50% of the grant funding will be set aside for each cycle. Applications not funded in the first cycle will be reconsidered in the second cycle. Loan Guarantees: USDA will review and decide applications for loan guarantees on a continuous basis, but must be received by USDA no later than June 16th. Applications for combined loan guarantee-grants will be reviewed bi-weekly and USDA also must receive those applications no later than June 16th. The USDA has provided funding resulting in $205 million in loan guarantees (leveraging $19.9 million from original Congressional funding). On-Line Applications: Grant applicants have the option to submit applications online from www.grants.gov and submit their application electronically. (At the time of this writing, the application is not yet available). Loan guarantee applications can only be submitted in paper form. Further Information: Further information on the program including frequently asked questions, official application forms and templates, checklists, tips, case studies, application instructions and regulations can be found at www.farmenergy.org . Sincerely, John Bonitz, Farm Outreach & Policy Advocate Southern Alliance for Clean Energy PO Box 1833, Pittsboro, NC 27312 Phone: 919-545-2920 Mobile: 919-360-2492 Email: bonitz at cleanenergy.org Web: http://www.cleanenergy.org USDA RURAL DEVELOPMENT INVITES APPLICATIONS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY LOANS AND GRANTS WASHINGTON, March 6, 2008 - Agriculture Secretary Ed Schafer announced during an international renewable energy conference that USDA will accept $220.9 million in loan and grant applications within USDA?s Renewable Energy Systems and Energy Efficiency Improvements Program. ?As demand for energy rises, these renewable energy loans and grants help farms and rural small businesses increase their investment in renewable energy initiatives,? said Schafer, speaking at the Washington International Renewable Energy Conference (WIREC). ?Energy efficiency wisely applies our resources, and energizes wealth-creation opportunities with more jobs throughout rural America.? Loan guarantees and grants are available to agricultural producers and rural small businesses to purchase and install renewable energy systems or to make energy efficiency improvements. Eligible applicants may seek loan guarantees to cover up to 50 percent of a project?s cost, not to exceed $10 million. Grants are available for up to 25 percent of a project?s cost, not to exceed $250,000 for energy efficiency improvements and $500,000 for renewable energy systems. USDA Rural Development has invested $674 million in more than 1,763 renewable energy and energy efficiency projects since 2001. These investments include ethanol, biodiesel, wind, solar, geothermal, methane gas recovery systems and biomass. The Bush administration?s Farm Bill proposal recommends a $1.6 billion increase in renewable energy funding. Were Congress to agree, cellulosic ethanol development proposals would receive a $2.1 billion loan guarantee program, while $500 million would be available for bioenergy and bioproducts research programs, as well as another $500 million for renewable energy development and energy efficiency grants. Details are available at www.usda.gov/farmbill . USDA will issue one grant solicitation for two separate competitions in FY 2008. For the first competitive window, grant-only applications must be submitted no later than April 15, 2008. For the second competitive window, grant-only applications must be submitted no earlier than April 16, 2008, and no later than June 16, 2008. Applications for loan guarantees, as well as those for loan/grant combinations must be completed and submitted to the appropriate USDA Rural Development State Office no later than June 16, 2008. Further information on rural programs is available at a local USDA Rural Development office or by visiting USDA?s web site at http://www.rurdev.usda.gov . USDA Rural Development?s mission is to increase economic opportunity and improve the quality of life for rural residents. Rural Development has invested nearly $91 billion since 2001 for equity and technical assistance to finance and foster growth in homeownership, business development, and critical community and technology infrastructure. More than 1.7 million jobs have been created or saved through these investments. Further information on rural programs is available at a local USDA Rural Development office or by visiting USDA's web site at http://www.rurdev.usda.gov. # From mattr at biofuels.coop Wed Mar 19 18:45:18 2008 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:45:18 -0600 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320, GL320, and R320 BlueTec Diesels - Auto Shows Message-ID: <7CA463C8-4757-4FDD-AFA2-173E822402C8@biofuels.coop> 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320, GL320, and R320 BlueTec Diesels - Auto Shows They?re here! Finally, 50-state diesels from Mercedes-Benz in its lineup of SUVs. BY JARED GALL March 2008 We?ve been waiting for years now for new clean diesels from a number of different manufacturers, including Mercedes-Benz, and finally, the German luxury brand is bringing 50-state BlueTec engines to the U.S. in its lineup of SUVs. Debuting at the New York auto show in BlueTec guise are the 2009 GL320, R320, and face-lifted ML320, all boasting the AdBlue urea- injection technology that cleans up the exhaust from the 215-hp, 3.0- liter turbo-diesel enough for these diesels to be certified for sale in all 50 states. Currently, these models can only be sold in 45 states. Urea?a nitrogenous compound found in mammal urine but also produced synthetically?is the BlueTec solution to the last emissions hurdle facing diesel engines in the U.S. Various catalysts and filters have reduced particulate emissions?the heavy black soot associated with diesel engines?to acceptable levels, but until now emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOx) have been too heavy for 50-state certification. AdBlue is a urea solution injected into the exhaust stream that, when it reacts with the NOx, breaks them down into nitrogen and water. The storage tanks for AdBlue range in size from seven to eight-and-a-half gallons depending on the model and are found underneath the rear cargo area. They should usually only need refilling every 10,000 miles, which will be done as part of Mercedes? regular maintenance. But here's the kicker: to ensure that these diesels never run without the AdBlue aftertreatment, there's a warning each time you start the car when the tank is empty. After twenty of these warnings, the vehicle will completely shut down. With the fuel-economy benefits of diesel?typically 20 to 30 percent higher than comparable gasoline engines?Mercedes is claiming a range of 600-plus miles for each of these three SUVs, meaning that road trippers will likely be stopping to drain their own urea tanks more often than to fill the fuel tank of their Benz. Copyright ?2007 Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S., Inc. From rudolfdiesel at netzero.net Wed Mar 19 21:24:49 2008 From: rudolfdiesel at netzero.net (rudolfdiesel at netzero.net) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:24:49 GMT Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] old benz Diesels available Message-ID: <20080319.222449.12022.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Well, I have a couple of 85 300DT's on hand. I have known both of these cars for a few years. Both are strong runners, don't leak and have excellent transmissions. newer batteries too. Both need cosmetics and that horrible phrase: "a little TLC". 1, Faded white w/ tan, has traveled between Clayton & Morrisville every weekday for the last year without fail. $1500 2, Blue with Blue, clear coat peeling off rear quarters and deck lid. New tires, front end, shocks, brakes and a fresh engine transplant. This could be a very presentable car w/ an above the belt line repaint. I drove this car 2 years ago, made several trips to WV and the midwest. Sold it, new owner blew the engine after a few months, so Itook it back and finally got around to performing the transplant. Its a nice driver. $2500 Will negotiate a package price if anyone wants the pair. call or e-mail if interested! Rich Cregar 919-550-7577 rudolfdiesel at netzero.net _____________________________________________________________ Click here to obtain free information on accredited degrees. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4s3m9dzpV9O72lFErous7xFqyr4gz8o8Gw862qloG9PDiP1g/ From dlane20 at nc.rr.com Thu Mar 20 05:32:29 2008 From: dlane20 at nc.rr.com (David Lane) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:32:29 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Subaru Turbodiesel Boxer Engine Still Years Away References: <7CA463C8-4757-4FDD-AFA2-173E822402C8@biofuels.coop> Message-ID: <000e01c88a75$b4248c80$0201a8c0@getawarrant1st> I had emailed them about getting one for me to install in my Impreza, most of their stuff is interchangeable. Dear David Lane: Thank you for visiting the Subaru Web site and for your interest in Subaru products. The plan is to introduce a turbo-diesel powered model in Europe this year in April. Once this model is on the market in Europe, our manufacturer will review the sales results, performance and feedback from owners. At that time, a decision will be made as to whether or not to offer this model in the US. We do hope to have this engine available in our vehicles within 5 years, which is conservatively speaking. It would have to be modified to meet the stricter standards of the US government. We do appreciate that you brought this interest to our attention. I have forwarded your message to our Product Planning Department as a suggestion to offer diesel Subaru models in the United States and as soon as possible. Thank you for the opportunity to be of assistance. If you need any future assistance, please let us know. Best wishes, John J. Mergen Subaru of America, Inc. Customer/Dealer Services Department From kcfoxie at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 17:07:01 2008 From: kcfoxie at gmail.com (Chris Browder) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:07:01 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] For Sale: 2006 Jetta TDI Special Edition In-Reply-To: <20080319.222449.12022.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> References: <20080319.222449.12022.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <973C7DA1-AA58-4506-AAA4-B3FF1F9A6718@gmail.com> Dear BIG List: Fear not! I'm not leaving the community, I'm just changing vehicles. I REALLY miss my old New Beetle and have decided I can't live without one. What I have is a 2006 Jetta TDI Special Edition. This is one of the last 10,000 produced in 2006 to be sold in the 2007 "dry spell" year. The car has just under 51,000 miles. I have used MOTUL or ELF (both VW approved) oils since day one, and done changes at 5000, 10000, 20000, 30000, 40000 and 50000. New tires were put on at 45,000 and a new clutch around 32000 miles. The vehicle has a software "chip" that can be removed if asked, it improves speed and economy (and was the reason my factory clutch failed). The new clutch is much stronger and is an OEM Brand (valeo). My payoff is $25,590. I have an uncertain future with my company, and that is the motivating factor to sell the vehicle. It has many hundreds of thousands of miles left life, and will drive from Raleigh to Memphis, TN on a single tank getting 49.8MPG. I routinely see 500 miles on a tank of B100. I like this car, but I'm not emotionally invested in it as I was with the Beetles. Ideally, I'd like to find someone with a TDI bug who has a growing family and needs a reasonably priced TDI sedan. I would love to "trade" vehicles and let you assume the payment (basically, arrange your own financing and pay off my note, Wachovia will send the title in your name to your home). Features include: leatherette seats (with seat heaters), Multifunction Computer Display, Sirius Satellite Radio with 6-disc CD/MP3, 5-speed transmission, steering wheel controls, keyless roll up/roll down windows, two "switchblade" remote keys, and a sunroof. The brakes were replaced around 40,000 as well. The vehicle drives like new. Dealers are selling these cars for up to $28,000 with similar milage, which I think is a ripoff. Help me out and bring a new TDI at a more fair-than-market-value to your family. vehicle is Black with Tan interior. Chris 919-649-9650 PS: If anyone has a lead on a 98-01 TDI Beetle with cruise control, please let me know. From mattr at biofuels.coop Mon Mar 24 13:31:42 2008 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:31:42 -0600 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: World Energy Global News Summary 3.24.08 References: <1102030233805.1101954597262.1385.8.47113504@scheduler> Message-ID: <70AE0408-AEA9-4CD9-B011-1461B9895456@biofuels.coop> Begin forwarded message: > > North America > >Renewable Energy Group (REG) of Ames, Iowa is halting construction > on a $92 million, 60 million gallon per year biodiesel plant in > Saint Rose, LA citing problems in the national bond market and > delays in federal Gulf Opportunity Zone financing. > > >Bunge North America says it will sell its newly completed $30 > million, 45 million gallon per year biodiesel plant in Danville, IL > to Blackhawk Biofuels of Freeport, IL. Fifth Third Bank and > Renewable Energy Group of Ames, IO will be lenders in the deal. > REG will manage the facility. > > >California-based Kreido Biofuels has again delayed construction of > its 50 million gallon per year biodiesel plant in Wilmington, NC, > saying it now expects to be operational by the end of 2008. "Due > to delays in funding, obtaining final governmental approvals and in > light of current adverse biodiesel market conditions, we have > pushed back our target commercial production date to the fourth > quarter," said Kreido CEO Ben Binninger. The company says it needs > to raise $25 million in working capital to complete its plant. > > >Record high crude costs and weather-related demand have taken > heating fuel prices to new highs. The Energy Information > Administration said residential home heating oil averaged $3.85 per > gallon by mid-March, well above the $3.28 per gallon average from > the beginning of winter to now. > > >Mason City, IO ethanol company Golden Grain Energy is working on a > partnership with BEST BioDiesel Inc. of Madison, WI to use BEST's > technology to process Golden Grain's corn oil into biodiesel. Tony > Janowiec, vice president of BEST BioDiesel, said, "Our vision is to > integrate technologies within existing ethanol plants to create a > real competitive advantage for our ethanol partners." The > biodiesel plant will be sited on the current Golden Grain property > to share storage, utilities, logistics and staffing. > > >In Raleigh, NC, a new fleet of Capital Area Transit buses is > operating on B20 biodiesel. The $5.5 million fleet upgrade was > funded by the Federal Transit Administration (80%), the city and > the state. > > >Fillmore Fuels has launched what it says is the first online > auction for biodiesel and related products-feedstock, catalysts and > processors-in the hope of creating an eBay type site for the > renewable fuels market. "It provides a means for local farmers, > restaurants and producers to sell their virgin vegetable oils or > waste vegetable oils to the highest bidder, increasing their profit > margins and limiting the middleman cost," said Wesley Fillmore, > president of the new venture. Sellers can post descriptions of > their products and buyers have a set number of days to bid. > Similar to eBay and other online auctions, buyers can rate and > review sellers and their products. The company is based in Largo, FL. Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From scotttsmith at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 24 17:53:35 2008 From: scotttsmith at bellsouth.net (Scott Smith) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:53:35 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320, GL320, and R320 BlueTec Diesels - Auto Shows In-Reply-To: <7CA463C8-4757-4FDD-AFA2-173E822402C8@biofuels.coop> Message-ID: <001501c88e01$e7b2def0$6503a8c0@Dell> I did some research on these at the local MB dealer a few months back. Unfortunately, Mercedes recommends a maximum 5% bio diesel blend for their BlueTec diesels. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Rudolf [mailto:mattr at biofuels.coop] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:45 PM To: BIG List Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320, GL320,and R320 BlueTec Diesels - Auto Shows 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320, GL320, and R320 BlueTec Diesels - Auto Shows They're here! Finally, 50-state diesels from Mercedes-Benz in its lineup of SUVs. BY JARED GALL March 2008 We've been waiting for years now for new clean diesels from a number of different manufacturers, including Mercedes-Benz, and finally, the German luxury brand is bringing 50-state BlueTec engines to the U.S. in its lineup of SUVs. Debuting at the New York auto show in BlueTec guise are the 2009 GL320, R320, and face-lifted ML320, all boasting the AdBlue urea- injection technology that cleans up the exhaust from the 215-hp, 3.0- liter turbo-diesel enough for these diesels to be certified for sale in all 50 states. Currently, these models can only be sold in 45 states. Urea-a nitrogenous compound found in mammal urine but also produced synthetically-is the BlueTec solution to the last emissions hurdle facing diesel engines in the U.S. Various catalysts and filters have reduced particulate emissions-the heavy black soot associated with diesel engines-to acceptable levels, but until now emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOx) have been too heavy for 50-state certification. AdBlue is a urea solution injected into the exhaust stream that, when it reacts with the NOx, breaks them down into nitrogen and water. The storage tanks for AdBlue range in size from seven to eight-and-a-half gallons depending on the model and are found underneath the rear cargo area. They should usually only need refilling every 10,000 miles, which will be done as part of Mercedes' regular maintenance. But here's the kicker: to ensure that these diesels never run without the AdBlue aftertreatment, there's a warning each time you start the car when the tank is empty. After twenty of these warnings, the vehicle will completely shut down. With the fuel-economy benefits of diesel-typically 20 to 30 percent higher than comparable gasoline engines-Mercedes is claiming a range of 600-plus miles for each of these three SUVs, meaning that road trippers will likely be stopping to drain their own urea tanks more often than to fill the fuel tank of their Benz. Copyright C2007 Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S., Inc. From Rick_Leonard at beaerospace.com Mon Mar 24 18:05:36 2008 From: Rick_Leonard at beaerospace.com (Rick_Leonard at beaerospace.com) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:05:36 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Rick Leonard is out of the office (3/21/08 - 3/30-08). Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 03/20/2008 and will not return until 03/31/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. From sjhr2000 at mailcan.com Tue Mar 25 07:42:34 2008 From: sjhr2000 at mailcan.com (Steve Rankin) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:42:34 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] containers wanted Message-ID: <1206448954.8191.1244152433@webmail.messagingengine.com> does anybody know where to currently obtain plastic or metal drums locally? (I live in Orange Co.) I only need a few of them... thanks! -- Steve J. Rankin sjhr2000 at mailcan.com From biodiesel at yovo.info Tue Mar 25 07:52:47 2008 From: biodiesel at yovo.info (Jurgen Henn) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:52:47 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] containers wanted In-Reply-To: <1206448954.8191.1244152433@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1206448954.8191.1244152433@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <47E8F59F.6090008@yovo.info> I get my containers from Philco Services recycling in Durham. I recommend calling them first. http://philcoservices.com/3.html 419-9996 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J?rgen Henn 2002 Jetta TDI 1991 Mercedes 300D http://words.yovo.info/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steve Rankin wrote: > does anybody know where to currently obtain plastic or metal drums > locally? (I live in Orange Co.) I only need a few of them... > > thanks! From sjhr2000 at mailcan.com Tue Mar 25 11:26:11 2008 From: sjhr2000 at mailcan.com (Steve Rankin) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:26:11 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] biofuel article Message-ID: <1206462371.22173.1244199063@webmail.messagingengine.com> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23638979 -- Steve J. Rankin sjhr2000 at mailcan.com From sjhr2000 at mailcan.com Wed Mar 26 11:13:25 2008 From: sjhr2000 at mailcan.com (Steve Rankin) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:13:25 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] a very interesting article on biofuel, food, and the economy Message-ID: <1206548005.25208.1244411751@webmail.messagingengine.com> http://www.grist.org/comments/food/2008/03/21/index.html -- Steve J. Rankin sjhr2000 at mailcan.com From girlmark_list_email at localb100.com Wed Mar 26 13:49:33 2008 From: girlmark_list_email at localb100.com (girl Mark) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Classes at Piedmont Biofuels this spring and summer Message-ID: <53122.72.1.150.252.1206557373.squirrel@webmail.localb100.com> My Wilmington, NC 'biodiesel crash course' next weekend is nearly full. If you are signing up and it fills up before you get in (there'll be a note on my site), please consider coming to one of the many Pittsboro, NC classes I'm teaching this summer (Pittsboro is about 25 minutes from Raleigh or Chapel Hill): No experience required: Biodiesel Essentials- May 3-4 just added- another session of Biodiesel Essentials repeats June 7-8 Biodiesel Equipment Intensive June 14-15 The following two classes are for students with prior experience, or for those who have attended a Biodiesel Essentials class or something similar taught by others: Biodiesel System Tricks June 28-29 Biodiesel Production Advanced Topics July 26-27 To register for these classes, please see http://www.girlmark.com/tour All proceeds from these classes benefit Piedmont Biofuels summer internship program. From wrenchwench at blast.com Thu Mar 27 06:50:31 2008 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:50:31 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Prices Soar References: <24717066.2072321206576735997.JavaMail.rsspp@deepstorage1> Message-ID: <233CE59A-BADE-4F94-91D8-C4CE018B0091@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > Biodiesel Prices Soar in WNC > > Posted: > > 2008-03-26 - By John Boyle, The Asheville Citizen-Times - Link to > Story http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080325/ NEWS01/80324111 From ncminuteman at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 07:14:26 2008 From: ncminuteman at gmail.com (Denton) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:14:26 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Credit woes afflict N.C. biofuel plans Message-ID: <47EB8FA2.3050601@gmail.com> Credit woes afflict N.C. biofuel plans http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/1014697.html From kcfoxie at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 11:48:53 2008 From: kcfoxie at gmail.com (Chris Browder) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Oldsmobile Diesel Question In-Reply-To: <233CE59A-BADE-4F94-91D8-C4CE018B0091@blast.com> References: <24717066.2072321206576735997.JavaMail.rsspp@deepstorage1> <233CE59A-BADE-4F94-91D8-C4CE018B0091@blast.com> Message-ID: <0E536833-633F-49B9-9256-6AA441834B2B@gmail.com> Hello everyone, I have the opportunity to scoop up a Diesel Olds. It has 91k original miles, and I know nothing other than what Wikipedia says about them. Googling reveals that if you know what your doing, the car can last some 300,000. The current owners think the tank needs to be dropped and cleaned out. I'm seriously considering the car as a daily driver to and from work, about 40-48 miles per day. That is all it would do. However it's also 300 miles away, and they're not sure if it will even make the drive (they inherited the vehicle from a family member who apparently bought it new in 1982). My math is that it was driven less than 3600 miles a year if their story is true. It is immaculate on the inside and the engine compartment looks entirely factory. Has anyone had experience with these and could lend a guiding light? I want to make sure it can function enough before we even get into running it on Biodiesel (but thats the ultimate goal). Thanks! Chris From shiftlink at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 12:42:03 2008 From: shiftlink at gmail.com (Cameron Conover) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:42:03 -0500 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Oldsmobile Diesel Question In-Reply-To: <0E536833-633F-49B9-9256-6AA441834B2B@gmail.com> References: <24717066.2072321206576735997.JavaMail.rsspp@deepstorage1> <233CE59A-BADE-4F94-91D8-C4CE018B0091@blast.com> <0E536833-633F-49B9-9256-6AA441834B2B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c758e6d0803271042g5151fd6fwa65dc6f8a3ba0a4c@mail.gmail.com> The GM diesel based on the small block chevy motor is one of the worst diesel engines in the history of ever. I would recommend passing on this one. Cameron On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Chris Browder wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have the opportunity to scoop up a Diesel Olds. It has 91k original > miles, and I know nothing other than what Wikipedia says about them. > > Googling reveals that if you know what your doing, the car can last > some 300,000. The current owners think the tank needs to be dropped > and cleaned out. > > I'm seriously considering the car as a daily driver to and from work, > about 40-48 miles per day. That is all it would do. However it's also > 300 miles away, and they're not sure if it will even make the drive > (they inherited the vehicle from a family member who apparently bought > it new in 1982). My math is that it was driven less than 3600 miles a > year if their story is true. > > It is immaculate on the inside and the engine compartment looks > entirely factory. > > Has anyone had experience with these and could lend a guiding light? I > want to make sure it can function enough before we even get into > running it on Biodiesel (but thats the ultimate goal). > > Thanks! > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > -- Cameron Conover www.raceconover.com 336-340-7826 KJ4BEE