From mattr at biofuels.coop Tue May 1 06:02:26 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 06:02:26 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: NO GAS on MAY 15th 2007 References: <66403.62834.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > NO GAS...On May 15th 2007 > Body: Don't pump gas on may 15th > Body: ...in April 1997, there was a "gas out" conducted nationwide > in protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices dropped 30 cents a > gallon overnight. > > On May 15th 2007, all internet users are to not go to a gas station > in protest of high gas prices. Gas is now over $3.00 a gallon in > most places. > > There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the internet > network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up. > > If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take > $2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companys > pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on > May 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil > industry for at least one day. > > If you agree (which I cant see why you wouldnt) resend this to all > your contact list. With it saying, ''Don't pump gas on May 15th" Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From bbjerregaarg at nc.rr.com Tue May 1 06:24:37 2007 From: bbjerregaarg at nc.rr.com (Beth Bjerregaard &(or) Bill Riggsbee) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 06:24:37 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: NO GAS on MAY 15th 2007 References: <66403.62834.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c78bda$ec202710$6501a8c0@DC7HP081> this is a hoax and goes around every spring since 1999 http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/gas_boycott.htm 1. There was no nationwide "gas out" in 1997. There was one in 1999, but it didn't cause gas prices to drop 30 cents per gallon overnight. In fact, it didn't cause them to drop at all. Despite the popularity of the email campaign, the event itself attracted scant participation and was completely ineffectual. 2. There are over 205 million Internet users in the United States, far more than the 73 million claimed. 3. If, say, a hundred million drivers refused en masse to fill up their tanks on May 15, the total of what they didn't spend could amount to as much as $3 billion. However, it doesn't follow that such a boycott would actually decrease oil companies' revenues by that amount, given that the average sales of gasoline across the entire U.S. is under $1 billion per day in the first place. 4. Whether the total was a half-billion, 3 billion, or 10 billion dollars, the sales missed due to a one-day consumer boycott wouldn't hurt the oil companies one bit. Think about it. Every single American who doesn't buy gas on Tuesday is still going to have to fill up their tank on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday. Sales for the week would end up being perfectly normal, or very close to it. A meaningful boycott would entail participants actually consuming less fuel -- and doing so in a sustained, disciplined fashion over a period of time -- not just choosing to wait a day or two before filling up as usual. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Rudolf" To: "BIG List" Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:02 AM Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: NO GAS on MAY 15th 2007 > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> NO GAS...On May 15th 2007 >> Body: Don't pump gas on may 15th >> Body: ...in April 1997, there was a "gas out" conducted nationwide >> in protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices dropped 30 cents a >> gallon overnight. >> >> On May 15th 2007, all internet users are to not go to a gas station >> in protest of high gas prices. Gas is now over $3.00 a gallon in >> most places. >> >> There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the internet >> network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up. >> >> If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take >> $2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companys >> pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on >> May 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil >> industry for at least one day. >> >> If you agree (which I cant see why you wouldnt) resend this to all >> your contact list. With it saying, ''Don't pump gas on May 15th" > > Matthew Rudolf > Piedmont Biofuels > www.biofuels.coop > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > From mattr at biofuels.coop Tue May 1 06:49:34 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 06:49:34 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: NO GAS on MAY 15th 2007 In-Reply-To: <000901c78bda$ec202710$6501a8c0@DC7HP081> References: <66403.62834.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <000901c78bda$ec202710$6501a8c0@DC7HP081> Message-ID: <85F843EE-CECD-4D1A-ACBF-A9B1B89B26F0@biofuels.coop> Oops. I just hit forward without really looking. Thank you for clarifying this! On May 1, 2007, at 6:24 AM, Beth Bjerregaard &(or) Bill Riggsbee wrote: > this is a hoax and goes around every spring since 1999 > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp > > http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/gas_boycott.htm > > 1. There was no nationwide "gas out" in 1997. There was one in > 1999, but it > didn't cause gas prices to drop 30 cents per gallon overnight. In > fact, it > didn't cause them to drop at all. Despite the popularity of the email > campaign, the event itself attracted scant participation and was > completely > ineffectual. > > 2. There are over 205 million Internet users in the United States, > far more > than the 73 million claimed. > > 3. If, say, a hundred million drivers refused en masse to fill up > their > tanks on May 15, the total of what they didn't spend could amount > to as much > as $3 billion. However, it doesn't follow that such a boycott would > actually > decrease oil companies' revenues by that amount, given that the > average > sales of gasoline across the entire U.S. is under $1 billion per > day in the > first place. > > 4. Whether the total was a half-billion, 3 billion, or 10 billion > dollars, > the sales missed due to a one-day consumer boycott wouldn't hurt > the oil > companies one bit. Think about it. Every single American who > doesn't buy gas > on Tuesday is still going to have to fill up their tank on Wednesday, > Thursday, or Friday. Sales for the week would end up being > perfectly normal, > or very close to it. A meaningful boycott would entail participants > actually > consuming less fuel -- and doing so in a sustained, disciplined > fashion over > a period of time -- not just choosing to wait a day or two before > filling up > as usual. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Rudolf" > To: "BIG List" > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:02 AM > Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: NO GAS on MAY 15th 2007 > > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> NO GAS...On May 15th 2007 >>> Body: Don't pump gas on may 15th >>> Body: ...in April 1997, there was a "gas out" conducted nationwide >>> in protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices dropped 30 cents a >>> gallon overnight. >>> >>> On May 15th 2007, all internet users are to not go to a gas station >>> in protest of high gas prices. Gas is now over $3.00 a gallon in >>> most places. >>> >>> There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the internet >>> network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill >>> up. >>> >>> If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take >>> $2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companys >>> pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on >>> May 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil >>> industry for at least one day. >>> >>> If you agree (which I cant see why you wouldnt) resend this to all >>> your contact list. With it saying, ''Don't pump gas on May 15th" >> >> Matthew Rudolf >> Piedmont Biofuels >> www.biofuels.coop >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >> Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net >> http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From wrenchwench at blast.com Tue May 1 15:06:03 2007 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 15:06:03 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: 1995 Dodge Diesel Truck 4WD References: Message-ID: For sale: > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/car/321948422.html > From markj.ambrose at gmail.com Tue May 1 15:15:28 2007 From: markj.ambrose at gmail.com (Mark J. Ambrose) Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 15:15:28 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] animal fat to175 milliongal/yearbiodiesel In-Reply-To: <2DEB9B445E6C754C9D93A10D462C79460109F5CA@pegasus.ncssm.edu> References: <8F00D186F7D47B4BAB1E0C9C11D134BC8F8225@NT000836.oak.zone1.progress-energy.com><014301c78683$adc1b760$1800a8c0@cleancities> <46364857.3050809@gmail.com> <2DEB9B445E6C754C9D93A10D462C79460109F5CA@pegasus.ncssm.edu> Message-ID: <463791D0.8010808@gmail.com> I view them as carbon neutral in the sense that essentially no additional net carbon is emitted making fuel from the wastes. The guts, feathers, etc. will be produced at a poultry slaughterhouse whether we make fuel out of them or not, so long as lots of people continue to demand chicken. If we don't make something out of the waste, it will have to be burned or buried somewhere to eventually rot. Either way, the same amount of carbon goes back into the atmosphere as if biofuels had been made from them. Of course, I am assuming the use of material that is TRUE WASTE. If the material in question had any other use (and I don't like to think too deeply about what animal parts can be used for), then there is a carbon footprint from making fuel from it because something has to replace the animal material in that other use. The ethical question is trickier Is it ethical to use things produced as byproducts of animal production for food? That is one that every vegetarian wrestles with. Do you consider the demand for meat to be so strong that those byproducts will be there in abundance and that it is wasteful not to use them? Or do you argue that any use of those byproducts improves the economic picture for the meat producer, so it actually helps perpetuate the system? Everyone has to make his or her own decision as to the ethics what products one uses. I myself am a vegetarian, but I carry a leather wallet, use white glue, and don't worry about what has been cooked in the waste cooking oil that gets made into the biodiesel I use. I don't view my use of leather, glue, or waste oil based biodiesel as significantly perpetuating a meat-based food system, but others may reach other conclusions. -- Mark Brisk, Marion wrote: > I have difficulty viewing slaughterhouse organic materials as > being carbon neutral. I know that feedlot animals are fossil fuel > energy intensive (fertilizer and pesticides for grain, climate > control, transportation, refrigeration etc) I have also seen some > data indicating that the energy expended for animal protein is about > 40 times greater than the energy expended for vegetable protein. > Eating less meat it seems would have a much greater impact on > greenhouse gas emissions than converting animal fat and carcasses to > biodiesel. I also have ethical questions about using animal parts for > an energy source in my car. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* biofuels_interest_group-bounces at lists.emji.net on behalf of > Mark J. Ambrose > *Sent:* Mon 4/30/2007 3:49 PM > *To:* Tobin Freid; biofuels_interest_group at lists.emji.net > *Subject:* Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] animal fat to175 > milliongal/yearbiodiesel > > I did a little bit of reading on Thermal De-Polymerization (TDP). > > It is a frustrating situation because TDP seems like a worthwhile > technology that the government should be supporting. At the same time, > what the oil companies are doing seems to be a clear abuse of the > biodiesel tax credit. As I understand it, in a TDP system, any number > of organic materials can be heated breaking a lot of chemical bonds, and > the result is essentially synthetic crude oil and/or synthetic natural > gas. Properly employed, TDP can be part of the answer to our energy > needs. Depending on the feedstock, TDP can be more or less carbon > neutral and be a solution to waste disposal problems. > > If TDP is used to produce fuel from slaughterhouse waste (ick), manures, > sewage sludge, or waste paper, the fuel produced is essentially carbon > neutral. > > If it is used to make fuel from waste plastics or old tires, the fuel is > not carbon neutral because the plastic or rubber was made from > petrochemicals. However, using TDP does reduce the need for crude oil > and save landfill space. > > The problem is not TDP per se; it is that oil companies got a ruling > from the IRS that their conventional oil refining process constitutes > TDP if animal fat or vegetable oil is introduced to the system. > Apparently, in conventional oil refining the oil is heated to the point > that the TDP reactions take place (or else TDP doesn't take place but > the process is close enough that it meets the definition in the tax > law). So the tax credit is going to the oil companies that don't have > to invest hardly anything at all in new equipment. I would be all in > favor of giving a tax credit so a company could build a plant to make > diesel out of used tires or sewage sludge, but seeing compnies getting > the credit for blending oil in with crude in their existing oil > refineries is ridiculous. > > Of course, part of the reason we have the problem is that the tax credit > was structured wrong to start with. The credit should have been set up > to encourage companies making fuel from waste materials. But because of > the political clout of agricultural interests, it favors the use of > virgin oils over used oils. And I don't think it applies at all to fuels > made from non-agricultural waste materials. The result of that > structure, as I understand it, is that if the oil companies add virgin > soy oil to their refineries with essentially zero new investment, they > can claim the $1/gal credit. If a TDP plant is built next to a chicken > packing plant to make diesel from guts, beaks, feathers, etc., it > qualifies for the $0.50/gal credit. If a TDP plant is built to make > diesel out of used tires or municipal waste, it gets no tax credit. > > -- Mark > > Tobin Freid wrote: > > This is a major loophole that the oil lobbyists created in a late > provision > > to the law. It allows fuel made from thermal de-polymerization (TDP) to > > qualify for the biodiesel credit. According to the NBB, "the TDP > process is > > a new technology to turn hazardous wastes, plastics, and food wastes > like > > poultry offal and carcasses into a boiler fuel. Congress never had > a chance > > to debate the provision, but it passed...." > > > > The IRS recently decided that the TDP definition could include > conventional > > petro refining by adding raw veggie and animal fats into their existing > > process. > > > > The NBB and others are working to get this reversed. The biodiesel > > community needs to step up and make a stink about this so the petro > > companies don't get away with it. > > > > Tobin L. Freid > > Project Coordinator for Energy and Environment > > Triangle J Council of Governments > > (919) 558-9400 > > > > -- Triangle J Council of Governments is a Best Workplace for > Commuters -- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ganter, Cheryl" > > To: "Tobin Freid" ; > ; "Marc > > ter Horst" > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] animal fat to 175 > > milliongal/yearbiodiesel > > > > > > > >> Isn't there a law or something that states that the fuel has to have a > >> certain percentage of biodiesel to be claimed " biodiesel " for the > >> purpose of getting tax credits? > >> Sounds like a loophole that needs to be changed to me. > >> > >> Cheryl G. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces at lists.emji.net > >> [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces at lists.emji.net] On Behalf Of > >> Tobin Freid > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:27 AM > >> To: mambrose at alumni.princeton.edu; Marc ter Horst > >> Cc: biofuels_interest_group at lists.emji.net > >> Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] animal fat to 175 million > >> gal/yearbiodiesel > >> > >> > >> This is actually a big problem for the biodiesel industry. In effect, > >> the > >> big oil companies are trying to take advantage of the $1/gallon tax > >> credit > >> originally created to spur biodiesel production and use. They are > >> planning > >> to blend a very small amount of vegetable oil with petrodiesel and then > >> claim the credit. This is not biodiesel in any sense of the word. For > >> more > >> information, see the NBB website: > >> > >> > http://www.biodiesel.org/news/07clicktrhrus/20070416_renewablediesel.sht > >> m > >> > >> > >> > >> Tobin L. Freid > >> Project Coordinator for Energy and Environment > >> Triangle J Council of Governments > >> (919) 558-9400 > >> > >> -- Triangle J Council of Governments is a Best Workplace for Commuters > >> -- > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mark Ambrose" > >> To: "Marc ter Horst" > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:18 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] animal fat to 175 million > >> gal/year > >> biodiesel > >> > >> > >> > >>> I heard about this on the radio, It sounded like a good project. The > >>> only thing that annoyed me was that on the radio, Conoco Phillips said > >>> that they were not going to market their final product as biodiesel. > >>> They were going to blend the biodiesel in low percentages with the > >>> petrodiesel and just sell it as regular diesel. > >>> > >>> A 3-10% blend is probably a good way to use biodiesel made from animal > >>> fat because of its cold flow properties when used straight, but I > >>> > >> would > >> > >>> like to see Conoco Phillips marketing it as a biodiesel blend to raise > >>> awareness of biofuels. > >>> > >>> -- Mark > >>> > >>> Marc ter Horst wrote: > >>> > >>>> Tyson, ConocoPhillips link up for biodiesel > >>>> By Michael Kanellos > >>>> > >>>> > >> > http://news.com.com/Tyson%2C+ConocoPhillips+link+up+for+biodiesel/2100-1 > >> 1392_3-6176812.html > >> > >>>> Story last modified Tue Apr 17 12:19:52 PDT 2007 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Big oil, meet big meat.* > >>>> > >>>> Tyson Foods , one of the largest meat > >>>> > >> processors > >> > >>>> in the United States, is working with oil giant ConocoPhillips > >>>> > > to produce and start selling > >>>> > >> biodiesel > >> > >> > >> 412.html> > >> > >>>> made from chicken, pork and poultry fat. The two companies have been > >>>> running processing trials in Tyson's Ireland facility. > >>>> > >>>> Biodiesel can be run in most diesel engines but burns cleaner than > >>>> regular diesel fuel. It emits less nitrous oxide and sulfur > >>>> > >> compounds, > >> > >>>> depending on how it is processed. It is also more carbon-neutral, > >>>> advocates say, because the carbon dioxide emitted by tailpipes > >>>> > >> burning > >> > >>>> biodiesel is captured from green plants. (Grass takes in carbon > >>>> > >> dioxide > >> > >>>> during photosynthesis, cows eat the grass, and then the cow fat gets > >>>> turned into gas, which releases the carbon dioxide). > >>>> > >>>> Diesel fuel made from fossil deposits releases carbon dioxide that > >>>> > >> was > >> > >>>> captured below the surface of the earth. > >>>> > >>>> Tyson formed a renewable-energy division last year. The company > >>>> generates about 2.3 billion pounds of animal fat a year in its > >>>> operations. The companies estimate that the operation could result in > >>>> 175 million gallons of biodiesel a year. ConocoPhillips said it will > >>>> invest $100 million in this project. > >>>> > >>>> Culling animal fat from the nation's slaughterhouses won't solve the > >>>> energy crisis > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> _3-6160269.html>. > >> > >>>> The United States consumed about 62 billion gallons of diesel last > >>>> > >> year. > >> > >>>> Thus, Tyson's contribution would amount to less than 1 percent of the > >>>> overall diesel budget. > >>>> > >>>> Even if all of the deep-fryer grease and animal fat in the States > >>>> > >> were > >> > >>>> collected for fuel, it would still likely amount to only a small > >>>> percentage of the > >>>> > >> diesel > >> > >>>> supply. > >>>> > >>>> Still, it could add to the bottom line for both companies. On the > >>>> wholesale market, diesel sells for about $2 a gallon. The government > >>>> also offers subsidies ranging from 50 cents to $1 a gallon to ensure > >>>> that biodiesel, which is actually more expensive at the moment, stays > >>>> competitive with regular fossil fuel diesel. > >>>> > >>>> Biodiesel produced from animal fat is better-suited to fueling > >>>> industrial boilers than cars, according to University of Minnesota > >>>> professor Vernon Eidman > >>>> > >> . > >> > >>>> Tyson and ConocoPhillips, however, said their biodiesel will be sold > >>>> > >> for > >> > >>>> the "on-road" diesel market. Biodiesel can also be mixed in with > >>>> > >> regular > >> > >>>> diesel. > >>>> > >>>> The two companies will begin to ramp up manufacturing facilities this > >>>> > >>>> year. > >>>> > >>>> Converting waste oil or animal fat into biodiesel largely revolves > >>>> around removing glycerols, which increase viscosity, from the oil. > >>>> > >> The > >> > >>>> glycerols removed from the process can also be sold to other > >>>> > >> customers > >> > >>>> and chemical producers. > >>>> > >>>> Diesel engines can run on vegetable oil--Rudolf Diesel ran his first > >>>> engines on peanut oil--but the oil needs to be heated first, which > >>>> > >> would > >> > >>>> require modifications to the car. > >>>> > >>>> Although demand for fuel is high, alternative fuel remains a risky > >>>> business. Erecting refineries costs millions of dollars, and > >>>> fluctuations in the prices of crude oil and alternative-fuel > >>>> > >> feedstock > >> > >>>> can transform a company from profitable to loss-making. Several > >>>> > >> ethanol > >> > >>>> companies recently saw their profits evaporate after the price of > >>>> > >> corn > >> > >>>> shot up. > >>>> > >>>> Smithfield Foods >, for instance, > >>>> canceled its own alternative-energy plant, which hoped to make > >>>> > >> biodiesel > >> > >>>> from mixing vegetable oil with methane from cow manure culled on its > >>>> farms. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > >>>> Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > >>>> http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > >>> Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > >>> http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > >> Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > >> http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > >> Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > >> http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > From tjayweaver at hotmail.com Tue May 1 15:24:42 2007 From: tjayweaver at hotmail.com (Jay Weaver) Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 15:24:42 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] posting etiquette Message-ID: Hello all list members: When replying to previous posts, please take the TIME to remove unnecessary text from your reply email. Simply cut out what part is not pertinent to your reply and leave in only the part that your are responding to. This will make the list easier to read, use and in turn the list-server will live a long and healthy life, thus reducing carbon emissions because the fan wont need to run as much to keep it cool and the Power Co wont need to burn as much coal to send juice to the server and the 200 million internet users or 73 million, (whichever) wont need their pc fans to run as long because they wont be scrolling through the endless jargon of waste reply text. Hopefully this will help my eyeballs last a few more years before I need that laser surgery! Muchas gracias! Jay Weaver tjayweaver at hotmail.com From rixdobbs at hotmail.com Wed May 2 14:15:54 2007 From: rixdobbs at hotmail.com (rix dobbs) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 18:15:54 +0000 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] A new power related technology needing development. Message-ID: I well understand that you are receptive to new ideas. I have one. I'm a lone inventor with this idea which needs to be confirmed or refuted by making and testing a prototype. The idea: This is a power related invention. The The Law Of Conservation of Energy says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed but can only change form. I believe I?ve learned how to transform ambient thermal energy into usable electric power. I believe a source of power for the world would be useful ? given the global warming resulting from the burning of fossil fuels. This idea will result in the ability to produce electric power from the temperature that can be removed from rivers, the oceans; the atmosphere. It can work anywhere on the planet, any season, day or night. It represents the ability to produce power for sale without producing greenhouse gasses or radioactive waste. What I would like to see happen: The world needs this technology ? to save the planet; while enabling the wealth creation that will result from more abundant energy. I?m a man of limited means. Developing at the rate that I have been is dragging this invention out much too long. To build the first one may take more time at this rate than I have left. I am extending an offer to share the profits in return for help launching the device. It won?t take a ?kings ransom? to construct. The potential rewards are huge. Given some development money, the ?proof? machine could be constructed quickly enough by hiring several contractors to construct parts which would then be integrated together by a different team. Of course part of MY motivation is to provide for myself and my family for life. At first money to complete the proof machine and to demonstrate it ? then to IMMEDIATELY switch to production. Setting up manufacturing. This will be exciting. And now I extend an invitation to you to communicate requests for me to expand, clarify, or support points as needed. 'How does it work?' will be kept secret until ironclad agreements are in place. Thanks. Respectfully, Rix Dobbs _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the i?m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 From rixdobbs at hotmail.com Wed May 2 14:15:52 2007 From: rixdobbs at hotmail.com (rix dobbs) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 18:15:52 +0000 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] A new power related technology needing development. Message-ID: I well understand that you are receptive to new ideas. I have one. I'm a lone inventor with this idea which needs to be confirmed or refuted by making and testing a prototype. The idea: This is a power related invention. The The Law Of Conservation of Energy says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed but can only change form. I believe I?ve learned how to transform ambient thermal energy into usable electric power. I believe a source of power for the world would be useful ? given the global warming resulting from the burning of fossil fuels. This idea will result in the ability to produce electric power from the temperature that can be removed from rivers, the oceans; the atmosphere. It can work anywhere on the planet, any season, day or night. It represents the ability to produce power for sale without producing greenhouse gasses or radioactive waste. What I would like to see happen: The world needs this technology ? to save the planet; while enabling the wealth creation that will result from more abundant energy. I?m a man of limited means. Developing at the rate that I have been is dragging this invention out much too long. To build the first one may take more time at this rate than I have left. I am extending an offer to share the profits in return for help launching the device. It won?t take a ?kings ransom? to construct. The potential rewards are huge. Given some development money, the ?proof? machine could be constructed quickly enough by hiring several contractors to construct parts which would then be integrated together by a different team. Of course part of MY motivation is to provide for myself and my family for life. At first money to complete the proof machine and to demonstrate it ? then to IMMEDIATELY switch to production. Setting up manufacturing. This will be exciting. And now I extend an invitation to you to communicate requests for me to expand, clarify, or support points as needed. 'How does it work?' will be kept secret until ironclad agreements are in place. Thanks. Respectfully, Rix Dobbs _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 From mattr at biofuels.coop Wed May 2 23:36:37 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 23:36:37 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: [ncmobilecare] FW: Durham lures carbon fuels research center References: <20070502160049483.00000003272@ANNE1> Message-ID: <94236003-81E7-496D-A103-1E8A888688C2@biofuels.coop> Begin forwarded message: > From: "Anne Tazewell" > Date: May 2, 2007 4:00:49 PM EDT > To: "ncmobilecare at lists.ncsu.edu" > Subject: [ncmobilecare] FW: Durham lures carbon fuels research center > > > > > > FYI > > > > Durham lures carbon fuels research center > > Triangle Business Journal - 2:54 PM EDT Wednesday, May 2, 2007 > > by Chris Coletta > > www.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2007/04/30/daily30.html? > t=printable > > > > > > The Southern Research Institute announced Wednesday that it will > open a > > research center at Durham's Treyburn Industrial Park. > > > > The Birmingham, Ala.-based nonprofit recently purchased the site, a > > 28-acre tract that includes 30,000 square feet of industrial space. > > > > Researchers at the "carbon-to-liquids" facility will seek ways to > convert > > non-petroleum carbon sources -- including biomass, coal, and human and > > agricultural wastes -- into products such as diesel fuel, jet fuel, > > ethanol and electric power. > > > > The institute plans to have about a dozen workers at the facility > when it > > opens later this year, said Rhonda Jung, director of public relations. > > > > A handful of those workers will be traveling back and forth between > the > > Durham site and Southern Research Institute's engineering facility in > > Morrisville, which also houses about a dozen employees. > > > > The institute hopes to grow the facility to 15 employees by the end > of the > > year and 30 to 50 workers within three years, Jung said. > > > > > > Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From skepticbill at mac.com Thu May 3 19:43:46 2007 From: skepticbill at mac.com (Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 19:43:46 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Beyond "Carbon Netural" to "Carbon Negative"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK folks, I'm not a biologist, a chemist, or an agronomist but this sounds very intriguing. I'm also (as my email attests) something of a skeptic and I'd love to hear what others think of this. Snake oil? Real thing? Potentially the real thing? -Bill- Birth of a New Wedge By Kelpie Wilson t r u t h o u t | Report Thursday 03 May 2007 Terrigal, New South Wales, Australia - As delegates met in Bangkok this week to debate climate change solutions contained in the IPCC's latest report, one technology not mentioned in the draft report was being closely examined at a conference in Australia in the beach town of Terrigal, just north of Sydney. The first meeting of the International Agrichar Initiative convened about 100 scientists, policymakers, farmers and investors with the goal of birthing an entire new industry to produce a biofuel that goes beyond carbon neutral and is actually carbon negative. The industry could provide a "wedge" of carbon reduction amounting to a minimum of ten percent of world emissions and possibly much more. Agrichar is the term not for the biomass fuel, but for what is left over after the energy is removed: a charcoal-based soil amendment. In simple terms, the agrichar process takes dry biomass of any kind and bakes it in a kiln to produce charcoal. The process is called pyrolysis. Various gases and bio-oils are driven off the material and collected to use in heat or power generation. The charcoal is buried in the ground, sequestering the carbon that the growing plants had pulled out of the atmosphere. The end result is increased soil fertility and an energy source with negative carbon emissions. The whole piece is at: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050307R.shtml From rachlh at yahoo.com Fri May 4 11:45:12 2007 From: rachlh at yahoo.com (Rachel Hoff) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Job Posting: Education Director Piedmont Biofuels Message-ID: <609940.19674.qm@web52004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> **please feel free to repost** Education Director Piedmont Biofuels (http://biofuels.coop/) has an immediate opening for an Education Director. This position will operate out of our Coop location on the Pittsboro-Moncure Road, in Moncure, North Carolina, and will report to the Board of Directors of the Coop. Today Piedmont Biofuels does a considerable amount of education and outreach on biodiesel. We have a full calendar of workshops and outreach events which include: demonstrations using our mobile biodiesel plant and table top ?cooking shows? in which we demonstrate biodiesel produced in low tech mason jars, and contract teaching jobs, ranging from a single day engagement at NC State?s Renewable Energy Diploma Series, to a one day Fuel Quality Workshop hosted in conjunction with the State Energy Office?s annual conference. We also interface with Solar Energy International. We also run a unique semester-long internship program which gives individuals the chance to run our pilot biodiesel plant, and participate in our numerous educational events. We are already in the education business. Our new Education Director will interface with Central Carolina Community College, where we teach a biofuels program and NC State University where we contribute to their education efforts. The goal of this position is to take our education efforts up a notch. To not only make them more sustaining, but also to expand them into other areas of renewable energy. We intend to delve into micro wind, and micro hydro, solar thermal, passive solar, photovoltaics, daylighting, geothermal, and anything else that could put our students on the path toward sustainability. The successful candidate does not need to be a teacher or trainer. We need a Director. We need someone who can mine our Rolodexes, line up the best instructors, put on courses and classes, and fill them up with interested participants. The Director will also manage a small staff of interns to help build the education program. This is a position that is starting just above ground zero. We have the business, we need to create the space, and the lists, and the newsletters, and the buzz, and everything else required to fill seats with people interested in learning more about renewable energy. This position is one part education, one part marketing, one part communications, and four parts passion. Our goal is to transform the way humans interact with energy, and transmit that understanding to the rest of the world. The successful candidate will blow us away. They will be conversant with energy issues, passionate about changing the world, and motivated to take our fledgling ?education piece? to the stratosphere. We pay $24,000 per year, with meager benefits (including a health care plan), buttressed by a whole bunch of community, like-minded individuals, lots of shared meals, and an unquantifiable heap of inspiration. We prefer not to hire commuters, so candidates should be excited to live in Chatham County where we have a growing progressive community with a food co-op, a housing community, and a biannual grassroots music festival, among other things. A bachelor?s degree or equivalent is preferred, but not required to apply. Interested applicants should email their resume and a letter of interest describing their background, and their interest in renewable energy to matt at biofuels.coop Qualified applicants will be asked to come in for a face-to-face interview. Join us. We need an Education Director who can rock the project. The starting date is July 15. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mattr at biofuels.coop Sat May 5 06:57:07 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 06:57:07 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Bladen Journal Article Message-ID: <21645729-4CDC-4316-873D-A67A73BA544B@biofuels.coop> They packed in a ton of information and actually got most of it right! http://www.bladenjournal.com/articles/2007/05/04/news/community/ news01.txt From leif at biofuels.coop Mon May 7 11:13:56 2007 From: leif at biofuels.coop (Leif Forer) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Tommorrow 5/8/2007 on OPEN/net References: Message-ID: <27D08D86-BE25-4B0D-81B0-95BD3935E72F@biofuels.coop> May 8, 2007 8-9:00 p.m. Energy Connections: Biofuel Potential in N.C. Over 5 billion gallons of petroleum are consumed in North Carolina each year. Imagine the economic benefits if 10% of that fuel consumed was produced within the state. Watch OPEN/net Tuesday, May 8th from 8-9:00 p.m. to learn about the potential of biofuel production inNorth Carolina. Here to talk with you will be: Larry Shirley, director of the State Energy Office in the Department of Administration, Kurt Creamer, biomass program manager in the North Carolina Solar Center. Mr. Creamer is also the assistant director of Animal andPoultry Waste Management Center at North Carolina State University, Dr. Mari Chinn, assistant professor of Biological and Agricultural Engineering at North Carolina State University, and Leif Forer, the co-founder of Piedmont Biofuels. A member-owned cooperative that promotes, produces and distributes biodiesel. Send in your questions and comments by email to open at ncmail.net or call in, toll free, to 1-888-228-6736. Find your local cable channel that carries OPEN/net on APT's web site: www.ncapt.tv/local.htm. Download live streaming video from APT's web site (www.ncapt.tv) on May 8 from 8-9:00 p.m. General Information about OPEN/net: -------------- next part -------------- OPEN/net is a statewide, cable television call-in program about state government produced by the Agency for Public Telecommunications (APT) in the N.C. Dept. of Administration. Over 42,500 citizens from across the state have spoken with policymakers on OPEN/net since the program first went on the air in 1984. OPEN/net is a public-private partnership - produced by the state and made possible by donated air time from North Carolina cable companies every Tuesday night from 8-10:00 p.m. Find your local OPEN/net affiliate on APT's web site: www.ncapt.tv/local.htm. In addition, OPEN/net is available on the internet (www.ncapt.tv) and on C-Band satellite (Intelsat A-6, Transponder 17V). From shiftlink at gmail.com Mon May 7 11:21:16 2007 From: shiftlink at gmail.com (Cameron Conover) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:21:16 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] BDP Message-ID: <4c758e6d0705070821h1473cacdh26935536c4c8441b@mail.gmail.com> I have two Ford diesels that I use for my business, and I'd like to start using biodiesel in them. Are there any good kits available to build a BDP? What about some resources that Might help me design and build my own. I have a few Biodiesel books that outline some of that stuff, but I was also looking to find some online support. Thanks, Cameron Conover www.raceconover.com From tami at blast.com Tue May 8 11:11:37 2007 From: tami at blast.com (Tami Schwerin) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:11:37 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Building a Successful Biodiesel Business Message-ID: Dear BIG List, We just got a shipment in of the second edition: Building a Successful Biodiesel Business by Jon Van Gerpen, Rudy Pruszko, Davis Clements, Brent Shanks, Gerhard Knothe Let me know if you'd like a copy and we'll mail you one asap! ($54.95 + postal) Tami Schwerin tami at blast.com 919-444-9300 http://www.theabundancefoundation.org From panthercat at gmail.com Tue May 8 23:52:31 2007 From: panthercat at gmail.com (panthercat at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 23:52:31 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Coconut oil powers island's cars Message-ID: <4b6e46c90705082052q7ef21154m6dbfdb9032f7b79@mail.gmail.com> http://bordom.net/view/15000/coconut_oil_powers_island_s_cars_ "You run your car and it smells nice and it's environmentally friendly and that's the main thing" From mattr at biofuels.coop Thu May 10 09:44:46 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:44:46 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Carrboro Upgrade Message-ID: <5B723BA4-370B-437D-83A7-E831883617B0@biofuels.coop> Apologies to those receiving this email for the second or third time! -------------------------- To the Members of Piedmont Biofuels and to the greater triangle community at large, I have great and exciting news to share with you all regarding our community tank trail, and our Carrboro pump in particular. Some of you may have heard about our new membership cards. They are nicer, more professional, and are blessed with a magnetically encoded strip on the back with which we can track your every move. Last October we launched the first B100 pump in Raleigh, and we made it a card swipe system, which allows for members of Piedmont Biofuels to swipe their membership cards, to activate the pump, and they can fill up 24 hours a day, seven days a week. A receipt is printed after the fill is made, and the member is automatically charged to their credit card for any fills they made during the previous week. The Raleigh system has been hugely successful, and we have received an exciting grant that will enable us to upgrade our Carrboro pump to the same system. This will allow Piedmont Biofuels Co-op members to fill up at either the Carrboro or Raleigh pumps simply by swiping their membership card. The same card will work at both locations, and all future Piedmont Biofuels locations will have the same system. Additionally, as we get funding, we plan to upgrade our older locations to this same system as well. What does this mean for you? Firstly, the Carrboro pump will go down on Friday, May 11th and Monday, May 14th to install the new card swipe system, so if you will need a fill in the coming days, you should hit the pump as soon as possible. All of the rest of the pumps will be operating normally. Secondly, if you are currently a Carrboro user, you will need to get us a copy of your key and we will happily exchange it for the new membership card. We will leave a small receptacle at the pump on Thursday afternoon for members to leave their keys. As soon as we get your keys in we will drop a new swipe card in the mail to you immediately. We plan to work very hard to make this transition go as smoothly as possible, although a few hiccups may be inevitable. Please excuse us in advance. If you are a Carrboro user and already have a card, kindly deposit the key in the receptacle the once the card system is online. These keys cost us money and we need to be sure to get every one of them back. Thanks! Finally, everyone should know that this new card swipe system is open to any Piedmont Biofuels member, so if you would like to use either the Carrboro or Raleigh pumps, please call our accounting office at (919) 545-2558 and ask to speak with either Barb or Amanda, both of whom will be happy to take your credit card information and send you out a new membership card. Also, PLEASE share this information with anyone you know who might like to use either our Carrboro or Raleigh pumps. We have turned away a number of potential Carrboro users in the past due to a limited number of keys, and we want to make sure those folks know that the new system has no limit on the number of possible users, so everyone is invited to use it! Obviously this is great news and we are really excited to share it. Please pass the word along. Thank you for your support. Best Regards, Matt Matt Rudolf Executive Director Piedmont Biofuels From ssemone at gmail.com Tue May 15 18:23:24 2007 From: ssemone at gmail.com (Sean Semone) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:23:24 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Hitch installer recomendations? Message-ID: <464A32DC.50406@gmail.com> I've seen a number of folks with Class I hitches on their Jetta's and Golfs (you know who you are!). My time isn't as free as it used to be (baby, etc... you know how it is) and I so am loathe to take on "drilling required" projects (which is de riguer for the 2002 Jetta Wagon .. unless I get a Bosal). So is there anyone who knows a reputable shop / mechanic that is familiar with installing hitches and wiring harnesses on VW's? Thanks! Sean From wrenchwench at blast.com Tue May 15 20:14:43 2007 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:14:43 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Industries Inc., DaimlerChrysler and NextEnergy Announce Detroit Groundbreaking for New Biodiesel Plant Message-ID: <70F8C11C-6FCC-4093-B152-6767A9DEABD0@blast.com> May 15, 2007 - Biodiesel Industries, Inc. - Press Release Biodiesel Industries Inc., NextEnergy and DaimlerChrysler today celebrated the ground-breaking for Biodiesel Industries? newest facility at 250 E. Baltimore Avenue in Detroit. The new plant will emphasize biodiesel research, development, and production. ?This pioneering project brings together a diverse group of major industry players, such as NextEnergy and DaimlerChrysler, for the common goal of biodiesel advancement and implementation. We?re delighted to be part of the core group involved in this innovative venture,? said Russell Teall, President and Founder of Biodiesel Industries. ?Our new facility will have the capacity to produce 10 million gallons per year of biodiesel using a full spectrum of feedstocks, including crude, refined and recycled vegetable oils and animal fats.? The facility will be the sixth such production project completed by Biodiesel Industries. ?Detroit is the perfect location for us to build our newest facility. This is the center of the automotive universe, and that is where we need to be. Coupled with the involvement of NextEnergy, DaimlerChrysler and other major automotive manufacturers and suppliers, we look forward to working together to set the standards for biodiesel production and use,? explained JJ Rothgery, Biodiesel Industries? Chairman of the Board. ?It is our pleasure to announce this project as part of National Transportation Week.? Biodiesel Industries uses its own patented and proprietary production technology that can produce quality biodiesel from the widest variety of feedstocks. Quality control systems are built into process control automation for the plant, ensuring that the biodiesel produced meets stringent U.S. and global standards. ?Biodiesel Industries has many years of advanced development and production experience in the otherwise young biodiesel industry. Given the tremendous national market demand for their product, we are delighted that Biodiesel Industries has chosen Detroit for their next biodiesel production facility,? said James Croce, Chief Executive Officer of the NextEnergy Center. Research and development will also extend into the development of agricultural resources utilizing brownfield sites managed by DaimlerChrysler. The use of new and innovative biodiesel feedstocks will be part of this research. ?As biodiesel demand increases there will be a need for new resources that can be grown in America by American farmers,? according to Michael Cassady, Biodiesel Industries? Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer. ?DaimlerChrysler has led the way in the use of biodiesel in diesel vehicles by being the first automotive manufacturer to deliver their vehicles to their customers with a blend of biodiesel as the original fuel. Soon it will be possible to have that biodiesel made in Michigan from resources grown here.? DaimlerChrysler has promoted the use of biodiesel fuel nationally with the launch of the Jeep? Grand Cherokee CRD diesel, Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel pickup, and Mercedes E320. To support the research programs at NextEnergy, DaimlerChrysler will commit currently unused land at a former SuperFund environmental site for use in producing soybeans, and perhaps other oil-bearing crops, for use in NextEnergy research programs. ?DaimlerChrysler is excited to be partnering with NextEnergy and Biodiesel Industries in this important research that will not only help diversify Michigan?s economy, but also strengthen the U.S. economy by reducing our reliance on oil,? said Deborah Morrissett, Vice President of Regulatory Affairs at DaimlerChrysler. For more information about biodiesel see www.biodieselindustries.com. Contacts Biodiesel Industries, Inc. Russell Teall 805-683-8103 rteall at biodieselindustries.com Airfoil Public Relations for NextEnergy Rich Donley 248-304-1430 donley at airfoilpr.com DaimlerChrysler Max Gates 248-512-2688 Cell 248-835-6272 mg145 at daimlerchrysler.com Business Wire 2007 From skepticbill at mac.com Tue May 15 20:39:09 2007 From: skepticbill at mac.com (Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Making Gasoline from Carbon Dioxide...in MIT Tech Review In-Reply-To: <70F8C11C-6FCC-4093-B152-6767A9DEABD0@blast.com> Message-ID: OK, it's another post from the listserve's resident "news agent". This one looks a lot more promising than my previous "agri-char". :-) Enjoy, -Bill- Wednesday, April 25, 2007 Making Gasoline from Carbon Dioxide A solar-powered reaction turns a greenhouse gas into a valuable raw material. By Kevin Bullis Chemists have shown that it is possible to use solar energy, paired with the right catalyst, to convert carbon dioxide into a raw material for making a wide range of products, including plastics and gasoline. Researchers at the University of California, San Diego (UCSD), recently demonstrated that light absorbed and converted into electricity by a silicon electrode can help drive a reaction that converts carbon dioxide into carbon monoxide and oxygen. Carbon monoxide is a valuable commodity chemical that is widely used to make plastics and other products, says Clifford Kubiak, professor of chemistry at UCSD. It is also a key ingredient in a process for making synthetic fuels, including syngas (a mixture largely of carbon monoxide and hydrogen), methanol, and gasoline. From: http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/18582/ From wrenchwench at blast.com Wed May 16 13:07:32 2007 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:07:32 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: NC Urban Forest Council's Biodiesel Education Workshop References: <1179261971.374889.316860@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > From: info at blueridgebiofuels.com > Date: May 15, 2007 4:46:11 PM EDT > To: BlueRidge Biofuels > Subject: NC Urban Forest Council's Biodiesel Education Workshop > Reply-To: Blue_Ridge_Biofuels-owner at googlegroups.com > > > North Carolina Urban Forest Council presents: > BIODIESEL EDUCATION WORKSHOP > June 22, 2007 > Asheville, NC > > NCUFC's "Biodiesel Education Workshop" will cover: > + Brief history of the diesel engine and how the inventor, Diesel, > had envisioned communities able to supply their own fuel. > + Evolution of the biofuels movement throughout the last > century to today. > + Biodiesel basics. What feed stocks are used, how biodiesel > works and why it is better than petrol diesel. > + Environmental benefits and engine benefits. > + Blue Ridge Biofuel's mission and what the company > provides to the community: locally made fuel, vegetable oil > recycling, home heating oil, and jobs. This company is a > unique, closed-loop, community-based biofuels model. > > The NCUFC has applied for ISA CEUs for this workshop. > > Date: June 22, 2007 from 9am-12pm > Place: City of Asheville Public Works Building, > 161 S. Charlotte St., Asheville, NC > Cost: Free for members/ $5 for non-members > > Register online at www.NCUFC.org > or send a check to: > NCUFC > PO Box 25852 > Winston-Salem, NC 27114-5852 > > Please call 336-774-0215 with any questions. > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "BlueRidge Biofuels" group. > To post to this group, send email to > Blue_Ridge_Biofuels at googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Blue_Ridge_Biofuels- > unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/Blue_Ridge_Biofuels?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From wrenchwench at blast.com Wed May 16 13:31:32 2007 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:31:32 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] E85 pulls out; ethanol plant won't be built Message-ID: http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=262351 E85 Inc., which had proposed building a controversial $200 million ethanol distillery north of Fayetteville, has backed out of the deal. Bill Martin, president of the Cumberland County Business Council, said E85 notified him by e-mail Monday that it would not build a plant here. ?Obviously, we are disappointed,? Martin said. ?We believed all along this was a good project, a good company, a good technology and a growth industry.? In December, the Business Council announced E85?s plans for a 150- acre industrial site behind the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. on Ramsey Street. The distillery would have transformed corn into 100 million gallons of ethanol annually that could be blended with gasoline as an alterative fuel. The plant would have paid millions of dollars in county taxes. Many residents within a few miles of the site opposed the proposed plant. So did some Cumberland County commissioners, including Billy King, Kenneth Edge and Ed Melvin. Opponents worried about odors, dust and truck traffic that plague some older ethanol plants in the Midwest. E85 had pledged to build a safe and modern plant, which it said would minimize those concerns. Edge said Monday that there were too many risks and unknowns. E85, a corporation that formed last year with plans to build 10 plants across the country, has never built or operated a distillery. E85 is based in the Seattle area and is backed by a business tycoon in India. More than 500 people signed petitions last month opposing the plant. Some wrote letters to local newspapers and Internet blogs questioning the E85 proposal and the viability of the ethanol industry. Mark Dassel, senior vice president and director of E85, couldn?t be reached for comment Monday. Martin said he didn?t want to publicly speculate why E85 backed out until he could review more information. The Business Council and E85 sponsored trips with some of those critics and business people to tour ethanol operations in Nebraska this spring. E85 also contacted a Fayetteville marketing firm for advice on promoting the plant. John Seaford, president of the Greystone Farms Homeowners Association, said the news Monday thrilled him. The association opposed the plant. ?I think the publicity got to E85,? Seaford said. ?I?m just glad we saved the county $875,000.? The Business Council, which recruits industry, had crafted an incentives package from the county worth $875,000. The money would have been used toward purchasing the land from private owners. The incentive deal included safeguards, officials said, to reimburse the county if the project fizzled. When the commissioners were set to hold a public hearing April 2 on whether to approve the incentives, E85 announced it would turn down the incentives but remained interested in building here. That announcement surprised some commissioners and critics. The month before, Dassel said publicly that E85 wanted the money as a sign of the community?s commitment to the project. Staff writer Andrew Barksdale can be reached at barksdalea at fayobserver.com or 486-3565. From wrenchwench at blast.com Wed May 16 18:44:44 2007 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:44:44 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Land of milk and biofuel Message-ID: ED TAYLOR, TRIBUNE http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/89616 Milk and biofuel might seem an odd combination, but a Phoenix-based company is planning to produce both at a proposed dairy/biorefinery in western Arizona. When fully built, the $260 million ag-industrial complex planned by the XL Dairy Group will produce 100 million gallons of ethanol, 25 million to 30 million gallons of biodiesel fuel and 21 million gallons of milk a year. The concept is to use waste produced by the dairy cows to make energy that would be used to turn corn into ethanol and biodiesel, said Dennis Corderman, chief executive and chairman of XL Dairy Group. Byproducts of the ethanol and biodiesel production will be cycled back to produce internal energy for the biorefinery and to provide feed for the dairy cows, he said. ?The biggest difference between us and other ethanol plants is we will use waste streams from the dairy to produce our own energy,? he said. ?It will provide the electrical and heat and steam energy for the entire facility.? Because the plant will supply its own power, the operation will have an energy efficiency ratio of 10-to-1, he said. That means for every one British Thermal Unit of energy put into the process ? including indirect energy consumption such as fuel needed to grow corn ? the equivalent of 10 units of energy in the form of ethanol and biodiesel will be produced. Conventional ethanol plants have an energy efficiency ratio of about 1.2-to-1, he said. One similar cow-power facility exists in the United States ? the E3 BioFuels Genesis plant in Mead, Neb., which has an ethanol plant attached to a dairy/feedlot. It became fully operational a few weeks ago. XL Dairy Group has completed construction of the first phase of the dairy on a 307-acre site near Interstate 10 and Vicksburg Road, about 100 miles west of Phoenix. The firm will move in the first of 2,500 dairy cows in about three months to begin milk production, Corderman said. Also within three months, the company plans to begin construction on the second phase of the dairy, which will eventually house about 7,500 milk cows. It is scheduled to begin operations at the end of this year. Then construction will begin on the biorefinery and an internal energy plant, or ?energy island,? with completion of both expected by the end of 2008, Corderman said. A second phase that would more than double the output of the biorefinery could be running in about five years. APS Energy Services, an unregulated division of Phoenix-based Pinnacle West Capital Corp., will operate the internal energy island. The result will be an efficient process without the need for outside electricity or natural gas to produce the fuels, said Project Coordinator Michael McCloud. ?We will be tied to the utility for redundancy, and we can use electricity from the grid for the startup,? he said. ?But at full operation we will not need any fossil-based fuels ? natural gas or coal-fired power.? Corderman estimates the efficiencies will allow the Vicksburg Biorefinery to produce ethanol about 30 cents a gallon cheaper than conventional ethanol plants. ALGAE POWER But Corderman believes that real efficiencies will start after the second phase goes into action. Instead of corn shipped in by rail from the Midwest, it will use algae as the feedstock to produce both ethanol and biodiesel. XL plans to grow algae on 2,400 acres of adjacent state land, using manure water, carbon dioxide produced as a byproduct of the ethanol process and sunlight. The company will propagate algae in a patent-pending system of horizontally mounted clear tubes, Corderman said. ?We feel that we have developed and are patenting the first commercial methodology to produce algae on a large scale,? he said. ?There is no question about the biology and efficiency of algae to produce fuel. The problem has been doing it cost-effectively, and we think we have resolved that.? But he said it will take 12 to 18 months to prove the efficiency of the algae system and another three years to have a facility producing fuel. The reason algae are a potentially efficient fuel source is that huge amounts can be grown in a relatively small area. Algae grown on 2,400 acres could produce as much fuel as 115,000 acres of corn, Corderman said. Another benefit of algae farming is that it consumes carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, produced in the ethanol-making process. Carbon dioxide also will be captured for other applications such as beverage carbonation, cooling and the production of dry ice. The ethanol will be used primarily as an additive to gasoline to make it burn cleaner, not as a primary fuel known as E85 ? a blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. The plant?s service area ? Arizona, Las Vegas and Southern California ? demands so much ethanol that it will absorb all of the plant?s production just as an additive, Corderman said. ?This region has a huge ethanol deficit,? he said. PLENTY OF POWER Leonard Byrd, project manager for APS Energy Services, believes the project is economically and technically feasible. He said it uses existing technologies, although in a different combination than has been tried anywhere else. ?Right now all the preliminary numbers say we should be able to make all of the power and all of the steam that will be needed,? he said. ?And we?re hoping to have surplus energy that could be put back in the market.? APS Energy Services has had preliminary discussions with other dairies and feedlots in Arizona to produce renewable energy from manure, he said. But some of them may wait to see how the XL Dairy project turns out first, he said. ?To some extent, people are wanting to see the actual product work.? LOCAL OPPOSITION Opposition to the XL project surfaced last fall when the company applied for a special use permit from La Paz County. Neighbors in Vicksburg and Salome complained about potential traffic, smells, safety, environmental and other problems they believed the facility would generate. As a result of those concerns, La Paz County supervisors placed 23 stipulations on the project as conditions for receiving the permit. Among the requirements are that the company coordinate with local fire districts and police to ensure the safety of the plant and surrounding area and draw up hazardous material and emergency response plans. The county also required the company to comply with air-quality laws, implement a county-approved landscaping plan, pave access roads and parking facilities and submit periodic water-use reports. La Paz County Supervisor Mary Scott, who represents the Vicksburg area, said she supports the project because of the economic impact it will have on the largely rural county. The dairy/biorefinery is expected to create about 400 construction jobs and 175 permanent jobs once it is operating. ?We?re a smaller county, so that?s a big shot in the arm for our tax rolls,? she said. Steve Owens, director of the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality, said the biorefinery will require an air-quality permit and possibly a water-quality permit. Although the factory plans to recycle many of its materials, it still will produce some emissions, he said. He declined to discuss details because final plans have not yet been submitted to the department. But on the basis of verbal discussions, Owens said it appears the operation will be ?pretty clean.? CLOSED LOOP Some of the technology to be used at Vicksburg is already operating at the E3 BioFuels plant in Nebraska. It employs an anaerobic digester to transform cow manure to biogas, which is used as a substitute for natural gas in converting corn to ethanol at an attached biorefinery. It also involves a closed loop system, using byproducts from the ethanol process as feed for the animals. However, the Nebraska project is not independent of the local power grid. ?They could become self-sufficient, but electricity is so cheap in the Midwest that it doesn?t pay to set up an internal generating plant,? said Peter Kelley, a publicist for the fuel factory. Still, the operation is more efficient than conventional ethanol production, he said. The biorefinery produces 46 BTUs of ethanol energy for every one BTU of outside energy put into the process, he said. Eventually, the developers hope to use cellulosic material from the corn plants to increase ethanol production by about 20 percent, Kelley said. The major obstacles to getting the plant operating have been weather related, including tornadoes and heavy snow during the past winter, he said. ?It is working,? he said. ?It?s all proven technology. The novel thing was linking it in a closed loop.? From tobin at tjcog.org Thu May 17 15:40:20 2007 From: tobin at tjcog.org (Tobin Freid) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:40:20 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Closing the federal biodiesel tax credit loop hole References: <609940.19674.qm@web52004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015d01c798bb$3b9b2c80$1800a8c0@cleancities> Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) introduced bipartisan legislation introduced today to prevent large integrated oil companies from exploiting a federal tax incentive designed to stimulate biodiesel and renewable diesel production. The bill, entitled the Responsible Renewable Energy Tax Credit Act of 2007, would prevent oil companies from claiming a one dollar-per-gallon tax credit when using small amounts of biomass as an ingredient in making diesel fuel. Under the Doggett legislation, producers making renewable diesel solely from renewable sources, and as it was originally defined, would continue to be eligible for the credit. For more info visit http://nbb.grassroots.com/07Releases/Doggett/ Tobin L. Freid Triangle Clean Cities Coalition Coordinator Triangle J Council of Governments (919) 558-9400 -- Triangle J Council of Governments is a Best Workplace for Commuters -- From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri May 18 13:40:01 2007 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:40:01 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Truck for sale Message-ID: Contact Seller directly, please Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:23:20 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: "Joe Suprick, PMP" Subject: ** Re: Isuzu NPR 14' box truck with lift for sale Without attachments 1990 NPR, clean ready to work truck No dents No rust Rollout side awning Picket pockets down side for mobile bench or display area under awning 4-adjustable load retention bars 2 - Rows of retention track inside of box 4-cylinder turbo diesel, 16 plus mpg Current inspection New Front brakes Couple of new tires, others great rubber New Front-end and alignment No oil leaks, New spare Radiator Does not burn oil $8750.00 OBO Call 919-272-7141 From mattr at biofuels.coop Mon May 21 10:20:43 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:20:43 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Local Biodiesel: A Biofuels Co-op Conference, July 13-15, 2007 References: <1179741386.514.94729.m38@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <207A7622-FFA6-40CD-879C-97F0838B39D4@biofuels.coop> Begin forwarded message: > Local Biodiesel: A Biofuels Co-op Conference, July 13-15, 2007 > GoldePosted by: "John Bush" zippyhybrid at yahoo.com zippyhybridSun > May 20, 2007 4:54 pm (PST) > Hello all, > > We apologize for the delay, but we now have online and mail-in > registration available for the "Local Biodiesel" Conference this > summer in Golden, Colorado over the weekend of July 13-15, 2007. > Please visit our website and register if you plan to attend: > > http://www.b100.org > > Last year's inaugural event was a great time and we had some very > informative discussions and lectures, so we expect a good turnout this > year. We will do our best to accommodate everyone this year but are > somewhat limited due to the university's facilities, so we encourage > everyone to register early to guarantee a spot. > > This is a technical conference for volunteer/advocacy groups, > small-scale producers, farmers, 'homebrew' producers, and > educators, and > a strategy conference for other local-scale biodiesel advocates. The > event presents biodiesel groups and co-ops from a 'case studies' > perspective, telling in their own words the real-world challenges that > biodiesel advocates have faced. The technical side of the event > includes > detailed discussion of topics such as quality control, organizing > volunteers, setting goals for volunteer groups, methanol recovery, > funding sources for educational groups, safety in production, side > streams disposal, and equipment design. > > Attendees are encouraged to learn how to make biodiesel at the > event- we > run 'remedial biodiesel' test-batch classes in the lab, where you can > get your hands on the actual process, and some attendees are bringing > process equipment to display. We build in a lot of 'down time' for > mingling and conversations, so as to provide experienced biodiesel > producers and advocates with time for off-line networking. Meals and > dorm rooms are available, with the tourist downtown of Golden and some > hiking trails just blocks away from the conference site. There is a > networking party on-site on Saturday night. > > Some of the presentations from last year's conference are located at > > http://www.b100.org/presentations > > some photos of the event are located at > http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/photos/events/denverconference06/ > > Conference presentation themes (or 'tracks') will include: > > Case Studies > Distribution > Education & Advocacy Groups > Homebrewing Biodiesel & The Law > Biodiesel Feedstocks > > We will be having many speakers return from last year but are > expecting some new faces as well. Also, there are still plenty of > opportunities for additional speakers available so if any of you have > suggestions or would like to come present your case study, technical > discussion, or demonstration please let us know, we would love to have > you! Please contact John at > > biodieselconference at gmail.com > > if you would like to > present at the conference or if you have any questions. > > Thanks, and we hope to see you this summer in Golden! > > Regards, > The Local Biodiesel Conference organizing team, > > John Bush > Jonathan Meuser > Graydon Blair > Maria 'girl Mark' Alover Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From mattr at biofuels.coop Mon May 21 15:50:19 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:19 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Question Re: Carrboro Upgrade In-Reply-To: <4651BC4F.6070801@nc.rr.com> References: <5B723BA4-370B-437D-83A7-E831883617B0@biofuels.coop> <4651BC4F.6070801@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <9028F3EE-722A-4803-9ECD-19974271214F@biofuels.coop> Apologies to everyone, but we are having some technical difficulties with the upgrade. Getting Carrboro online with the new card system is the #1 priority at present, but for right now hold on to your keys. We will send out a notice as soon as we finish with the work. Thanks, Matt > > Matthew Rudolf wrote: > >> Apologies to those receiving this email for the second or third time! >> -------------------------- >> To the Members of Piedmont Biofuels and to the greater triangle >> community at large, >> I have great and exciting news to share with you all regarding >> our community tank trail, and our Carrboro pump in particular. >> Some of you may have heard about our new membership cards. They >> are nicer, more professional, and are blessed with a magnetically >> encoded strip on the back with which we can track your every move. >> >> Last October we launched the first B100 pump in Raleigh, and we >> made it a card swipe system, which allows for members of Piedmont >> Biofuels to swipe their membership cards, to activate the pump, >> and they can fill up 24 hours a day, seven days a week. A >> receipt is printed after the fill is made, and the member is >> automatically charged to their credit card for any fills they >> made during the previous week. >> >> The Raleigh system has been hugely successful, and we have >> received an exciting grant that will enable us to upgrade our >> Carrboro pump to the same system. This will allow Piedmont >> Biofuels Co-op members to fill up at either the Carrboro or >> Raleigh pumps simply by swiping their membership card. The same >> card will work at both locations, and all future Piedmont >> Biofuels locations will have the same system. Additionally, as >> we get funding, we plan to upgrade our older locations to this >> same system as well. >> >> What does this mean for you? >> Firstly, the Carrboro pump will go down on Friday, May 11th and >> Monday, May 14th to install the new card swipe system, so if you >> will need a fill in the coming days, you should hit the pump as >> soon as possible. All of the rest of the pumps will be operating >> normally. Secondly, if you are currently a Carrboro user, you >> will need to get us a copy of your key and we will happily >> exchange it for the new membership card. We will leave a small >> receptacle at the pump on Thursday afternoon for members to leave >> their keys. As soon as we get your keys in we will drop a new >> swipe card in the mail to you immediately. We plan to work very >> hard to make this transition go as smoothly as possible, although >> a few hiccups may be inevitable. Please excuse us in advance. >> If you are a Carrboro user and already have a card, kindly >> deposit the key in the receptacle the once the card system is >> online. These keys cost us money and we need to be sure to get >> every one of them back. Thanks! >> >> Finally, everyone should know that this new card swipe system is >> open to any Piedmont Biofuels member, so if you would like to use >> either the Carrboro or Raleigh pumps, please call our accounting >> office at (919) 545-2558 and ask to speak with either Barb or >> Amanda, both of whom will be happy to take your credit card >> information and send you out a new membership card. Also, PLEASE >> share this information with anyone you know who might like to use >> either our Carrboro or Raleigh pumps. We have turned away a >> number of potential Carrboro users in the past due to a limited >> number of keys, and we want to make sure those folks know that >> the new system has no limit on the number of possible users, so >> everyone is invited to use it! >> >> Obviously this is great news and we are really excited to share >> it. Please pass the word along. Thank you for your support. >> >> Best Regards, >> Matt >> >> Matt Rudolf >> Executive Director >> Piedmont Biofuels >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >> Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net >> http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group >> >> >> Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From wooster at coastalnet.com Tue May 22 09:31:24 2007 From: wooster at coastalnet.com (wooster at coastalnet.com) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:31:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] 300 SD Message-ID: <28898025.1179840684903.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> A friend of mine has a 1982 300 SD for sale. The car is in very good mechanical condition, the interior needs work and it could use a coat of paint. The AC doesn't work but may just need freon. The wind shield is also cracked. It is a good runner and has less than 160K miles. It can be seen at Ultimate Automative 1620 Trawick Rd. The car is a lime green color. He wants around $2800 for the car. If interested call Sherrill Braswell at 252 442 2012 From mattr at biofuels.coop Tue May 22 10:56:20 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:56:20 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Carrboro is Live! Message-ID: For Immediate Release. As of 10:30am Eastern Standard Time on May 22, 2007 the Piedmont Biofuels Carrboro B100 tank has gone live with an unlimited user card swipe system. We apologize for the delay over the past week during the upgrade, and especially apologize to those of you who may have had to visit a conventional gas station for the fuel needs. We know it can be a shocking experience to smell the gasoline vapors while conducting transactions at the junk food lined counters after years of filling on your friendly biodiesel co-op's fuel. Thank you for bearing with us, and now we can all finally enjoy the Carrboro pump unlocked to its full, unlimited user capacity. Please spread the word that Carrboro is up, and make sure everyone with a diesel who lives in the area knows that B100 is available, and to contact us for a card. Finally, a special thank you to Blast Internet Services, who contributed enormously over the last week with our communications difficulties on the new card swipe system. Thanks for all your help getting this new system up and running! Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From mapmantx at yahoo.com Tue May 22 11:27:57 2007 From: mapmantx at yahoo.com (John Hollingsworth) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Price Pressure Message-ID: <44513.91024.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052207M.shtml Articles like the one above remind me of the post-Katrina period of $3.50+ prices for dino-diesel. I would like to know what the contingencies are for our co-op if the price goes north of our set price? Anecdotes of school bus demand (for example) wiping out our entire inventory could become quite real. I certainly don't want to whip up a bunch of paranoia and/or hoarding. But Peak Oil cometh and as a member I would like to hear and contribute to a strategy for how we will mitigate sharp increases in demand. Regards, John Hollingsworth ____________________________________________________________________________________Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From wes at xitechusa.com Tue May 22 13:06:44 2007 From: wes at xitechusa.com (Wes Garrison) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 13:06:44 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Cheap VW Golfs In-Reply-To: <44513.91024.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01d201c79c93$937cbe60$1301a8c0@mediatower> Just wanted to let people know about a few cheap TDIs that are around right now... 2000 model with 281,000 on it. High mileage, but should still last forever. Downside: Automatic Tranmission. Currently $4400, ends in 8 hrs!!! In Tennessee http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Golf-TDI-CLEAN_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQc ategoryZ15292QQihZ016QQitemZ260118484169QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW NICE 2003 Golf (the last year of the injection-pump ALH engine that gets 50 MPG). 140,000 miles. Manual transmission. Sunroof, Alloy wheels, cloth interior. Currently $9300, but buy-it-now for $10,850. That's a deal at $11k, and it ends in 8 hrs. as well. In. Tennessee. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Golf-TDi-Manual-2003-Golf-TDi-Turb o-Diesel-5-Speed-WVO-Option-50-MPG_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ15292QQihZ012Q QitemZ220112821972QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW 2000 Golf with manual transmission, 183,000 miles. Downside: A few small problems, dents and dings, etc. currently $4400, ends in a day and a half, in Syracuse (I assume New York) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Golf-GLS-TDI-2000-Golf-GLS-TDI-NO- RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ15292QQihZ010QQitemZ200111835803QQrdZ1QQs spagenameZWDVW Hope this helps somebody. I can help repair some of the minor interior cosmetic things, like scratches and such, on the cheap with real VW parts if anyone needs help. Happy bidding/browsing. Wes From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri May 25 09:27:11 2007 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:27:11 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Sign up Now! Green Building class this summer at CCCC References: <513913.67412.qm@web31104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7A751778-7E6A-41B1-A21D-4E8C94F65831@blast.com> > > Summer 2007 Green Building Class > > Taught by Stephen Hren, 683-2619. Email: > themudranch at yahoo.com > > Eight session - Four in-class periods at CCCC campus > in Pittsboro, Four hands on sessions in Person County > at Bernard Obie's farm. Students will be exptected to > attend at least three of each for successful > completion of the class. Carpooling will be arranged > for each. Please contact me if you either have space > in your car or need a ride. > > Syllabus > > 1st Class Tues, June 5th 7-9pm > - Our homes impact on ourselves and our environment > - Sink limits (global climate disruption, pollution, > etc) > - Source limits (peak oil, efficiencies of current > renewables, etc) > - What is Green Building? > - Film > - Design workshop > > 1st Workshop Sat, June 9th 10am-4pm > Hands on experience with natural building: straw > bale, waddle and daub, natural plasters, etc > > 2nd Class Tues, June 19th 7-9pm > - Fundmentals of structures and loads > - Natural building materials and their interaction to > load and environmental stresses > - Basic natural materials > - Codes and natural materials > > 2nd Workshop Sat, June 23rd 10am-4pm > Continue with building of cob/strawbale > greenhouse/cooler > Solar pathfinder demostration > > 3rd Class Tues, July 3rd > - Our daily solar energy budget > - The solar window and passive solar design > - Storing surplus energy > - Heat and how it moves > - Landscaping, green roofs and walls > > 3rd Workshop Sat, July 7th 10am-4pm > Continue building out at Obie's farm, tour finished > off grid cob home > > 4th Class, Tues. July 17th 7-9pm > - Renewable energy basics, including PV, solar hot > water, and solar thermal > - Appliances and wasted energy > - Conclusions, discussion, where to begin > > 4th Workshop Sat, July 21st 10am-4pm > Finish up out at Obie's farm, rendevous in Durham for > tour of urban permaculture > > For registration call Central Carolina Community > College 1.800.682.8353 > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From marc at theforestfoundation.org Fri May 25 12:43:48 2007 From: marc at theforestfoundation.org (Marc Dreyfors-President) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 12:43:48 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Church Key Brewing and ALt. Energy Message-ID: Beer and Biodiesel, nice closed loop engineering... those Canadiens, alway showing us up! http://books.google.com/books?id=gqBqBTb_lvMC&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=church+k eys+beer+biodiesel&source=web&ots=pEm0m0dG23&sig=Nw5e261JT-c-oHrnwOFS9LIa0z8 #PPA239,M1 From mattr at biofuels.coop Tue May 22 10:35:01 2007 From: mattr at biofuels.coop (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:35:01 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: June 10th-Farmer's Market Dinner References: <24AF8C67-F6F8-4771-B36D-CB25A23D09DC@blast.com> Message-ID: > Kids are sliding scale ($10.00 a kid) > > People can send checks to: > > Abundance Foundation > PO BOX 1113 > Pittsboro NC 27312 > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > Tami Schwerin > tami at blast.com > 919-444-9300 > http://www.theabundancefoundation.org > > > > > Matthew Rudolf Piedmont Biofuels www.biofuels.coop From rich at masonthree.com Fri May 25 10:13:27 2007 From: rich at masonthree.com (Rich Mason) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:13:27 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] B100 available for sale at my house on New Hope Church Road between Chapel Hill and Hillsborough Message-ID: Dear biofuels enthusiasts. I have just installed a 55 gallon drum with an electric pump at my house at 2312 New Hope Church Road between new 86 and NC 10 in Chapel Hill. I would be glad to sell fuel to coop members at the coop price I am paying for it. I do not have a meter so I can only fill premeasured containers such as 5 gallon cans. Since this is my home and I have large dogs running around my place, I can only provide fuel with a previous appointment. I only use Piedmont Biofuels B100 as delivered by the purty yaller truck and my tank is in a weather proof location with a water blocker filter. That said, I can not and will not warranty it in any way. It is the same stuff and set-up we use for our fleet of diesels (80 300d, TD Cabriolet, TDI Golf and Westfalia TD) but I'm just trying to provide a community service not operate a professional fuel service station. That said, I always have a case of Rotella and Castrol 20-50 handy as well! If there is enough interest, I have a 500 gallon tank that I can set- up but I'll jump off that bridge when I get to it. Best, Rich Mason Chapel Hill, NC 919.260.4973 From tavanas at gmail.com Sat May 26 09:33:44 2007 From: tavanas at gmail.com (t avanas) Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:33:44 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] B100 available for sale at my house onNew Hope Church Road between Chapel Hill and Hillsborough References: Message-ID: <001701c79f9a$7c3708f0$c701000a@amer.cisco.com> does anyone on this list have the special tools required to change timing belt on a 99 jetta tdi and would be willing to loan or rent it to me? thanks saeed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Mason" To: "BIG" Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] B100 available for sale at my house onNew Hope Church Road between Chapel Hill and Hillsborough > Dear biofuels enthusiasts. > > I have just installed a 55 gallon drum with an electric pump at my > house at 2312 New Hope Church Road between new 86 and NC 10 in Chapel > Hill. > > I would be glad to sell fuel to coop members at the coop price I am > paying for it. I do not have a meter so I can only fill premeasured > containers such as 5 gallon cans. > > Since this is my home and I have large dogs running around my place, > I can only provide fuel with a previous appointment. > > I only use Piedmont Biofuels B100 as delivered by the purty yaller > truck and my tank is in a weather proof location with a water blocker > filter. That said, I can not and will not warranty it in any way. > It is the same stuff and set-up we use for our fleet of diesels (80 > 300d, TD Cabriolet, TDI Golf and Westfalia TD) but I'm just trying to > provide a community service not operate a professional fuel service > station. That said, I always have a case of Rotella and Castrol > 20-50 handy as well! > > If there is enough interest, I have a 500 gallon tank that I can set- > up but I'll jump off that bridge when I get to it. > > > Best, > Rich Mason > Chapel Hill, NC > 919.260.4973 > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From timvictor at gmail.com Mon May 28 11:57:08 2007 From: timvictor at gmail.com (Tim Victor) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:57:08 -0400 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Intro for newbie/tirekicker in Greensboro Message-ID: Hi folks. I'm an overaged graduate student at NC A&T in Greensboro and I'm getting wound up to do my dissertation research on a topic related the combustion of biodiesel fuel. But I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of the fun since I've never owned a diesel vehicle. I'm thinking that it might be good to get some first-hand experience, maybe with some kind of older VW diesel. As a starving grad student, I don't have lots of money to spend and it was a little bit daunting to see the prices on the "cheap Golfs" from eBay that were posted last week. But I don't really need a creampuff or even a "dependable daily driver," just something to tinker with and get my hands dirty on. (I wish I had known that Adrian was selling his Rabbit last spring.) So if you're in the Triad area and you know of a project car sitting out back somewhere, or if you just want to shoot the breeze and show off your car--or biodiesel reactor--and fill me in on diesel VWs and the Triad scene, give me a shout. I'll treat you to coffee or beer for your trouble. Peace, Tim Victor From letterrrrip at hotmail.com Wed May 30 15:06:46 2007 From: letterrrrip at hotmail.com (Link Shumaker) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 19:06:46 +0000 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Ride to the co-op conference in July In-Reply-To: <207A7622-FFA6-40CD-879C-97F0838B39D4@biofuels.coop> Message-ID: Hello all, I am hoping to make it to the Local Biodiesel Conference in Colorado this July. I live in Central Kentucky and don't have a ride to the event. I am hoping to participate in a rideshare. I can make my way down to Tennessee if I need to. Is anyone driving from NC through Kentucky or Tennessee with an extra seat in their car? I am happy to pay some gas money. Please let me know if you can help. Peace, Link Shumaker University of Kentucky >From: Matthew Rudolf >To: BIG List >Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Local Biodiesel: A Biofuels >Co-opConference, July 13-15, 2007 >Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:20:43 -0400 > > > >Begin forwarded message: > > > Local Biodiesel: A Biofuels Co-op Conference, July 13-15, 2007 > > GoldePosted by: "John Bush" zippyhybrid at yahoo.com zippyhybridSun > > May 20, 2007 4:54 pm (PST) > > Hello all, > > > > We apologize for the delay, but we now have online and mail-in > > registration available for the "Local Biodiesel" Conference this > > summer in Golden, Colorado over the weekend of July 13-15, 2007. > > Please visit our website and register if you plan to attend: > > > > http://www.b100.org > > > > Last year's inaugural event was a great time and we had some very > > informative discussions and lectures, so we expect a good turnout this > > year. We will do our best to accommodate everyone this year but are > > somewhat limited due to the university's facilities, so we encourage > > everyone to register early to guarantee a spot. > > > > This is a technical conference for volunteer/advocacy groups, > > small-scale producers, farmers, 'homebrew' producers, and > > educators, and > > a strategy conference for other local-scale biodiesel advocates. The > > event presents biodiesel groups and co-ops from a 'case studies' > > perspective, telling in their own words the real-world challenges that > > biodiesel advocates have faced. The technical side of the event > > includes > > detailed discussion of topics such as quality control, organizing > > volunteers, setting goals for volunteer groups, methanol recovery, > > funding sources for educational groups, safety in production, side > > streams disposal, and equipment design. > > > > Attendees are encouraged to learn how to make biodiesel at the > > event- we > > run 'remedial biodiesel' test-batch classes in the lab, where you can > > get your hands on the actual process, and some attendees are bringing > > process equipment to display. We build in a lot of 'down time' for > > mingling and conversations, so as to provide experienced biodiesel > > producers and advocates with time for off-line networking. Meals and > > dorm rooms are available, with the tourist downtown of Golden and some > > hiking trails just blocks away from the conference site. There is a > > networking party on-site on Saturday night. > > > > Some of the presentations from last year's conference are located at > > > > http://www.b100.org/presentations > > > > some photos of the event are located at > > http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/photos/events/denverconference06/ > > > > Conference presentation themes (or 'tracks') will include: > > > > Case Studies > > Distribution > > Education & Advocacy Groups > > Homebrewing Biodiesel & The Law > > Biodiesel Feedstocks > > > > We will be having many speakers return from last year but are > > expecting some new faces as well. Also, there are still plenty of > > opportunities for additional speakers available so if any of you have > > suggestions or would like to come present your case study, technical > > discussion, or demonstration please let us know, we would love to have > > you! Please contact John at > > > > biodieselconference at gmail.com > > > > if you would like to > > present at the conference or if you have any questions. > > > > Thanks, and we hope to see you this summer in Golden! > > > > Regards, > > The Local Biodiesel Conference organizing team, > > > > John Bush > > Jonathan Meuser > > Graydon Blair > > Maria 'girl Mark' Alover > >Matthew Rudolf >Piedmont Biofuels >www.biofuels.coop > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >Biofuels_Interest_Group at lists.emji.net >http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storage?get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 From eurydice at sbcglobal.net Mon May 28 09:59:00 2007 From: eurydice at sbcglobal.net (eurydice) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 06:59:00 -0700 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] looking for diesel 7-seater Message-ID: <2CFB2D9B-1F62-4466-AA6B-1311BEF693E8@sbcglobal.net> I'm searching for a diesel 7-seater - we've outgrown our sedan. First choice would be a diesel Eurovan but since this may not be an option, I'm open to all sorts of things including a diesel Yukon or Suburban. Any leads would be appreciated. eurydice at sbcglobal.net