From wrenchwench at blast.com Wed Feb 1 09:41:01 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Wed Feb 1 09:40:40 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] South Dakota Governor Signs Executive Order for Biodiesel Use Message-ID: <62326939-E8DE-4F4F-943E-7973A6B4F9BF@blast.com> South Dakota governor Mike Rounds recently signed Executive Order 2006-01, which promotes biodiesel use in the state. Additionally, the governor directed the South Dakota Department of Transportation (SDDOT) to stock and use biodiesel-blended fuel which meets technical specifications "whenever it is available and financially prudent to do so." According to the governor's officer, a technical panel for a 2002 study initiated by SDDOT recommended use of a two-percent biodiesel blend to meet lubricity requirements for ultra low sulfur diesel usage. The study also revealed a positive cost-per-mile difference in favor of biodiesel as compared to conventional diesel fuel. Contact: Officer of Governor Rounds, phone 605-773-3212, website http://www.state.sd.us. From hogarth at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 09:52:22 2006 From: hogarth at gmail.com (Susan Hogarth) Date: Wed Feb 1 09:52:23 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] South Dakota Governor Signs Executive Order for Biodiesel Use In-Reply-To: <62326939-E8DE-4F4F-943E-7973A6B4F9BF@blast.com> References: <62326939-E8DE-4F4F-943E-7973A6B4F9BF@blast.com> Message-ID: <3889aa560602010652kdf54fefp1c0094bdba13efd3@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/06, Rachel Burton wrote: > > South Dakota governor Mike Rounds recently signed Executive Order > 2006-01, which promotes biodiesel use in the state. Additionally, > the governor directed the South Dakota Department of > Transportation > (SDDOT) to stock and use biodiesel-blended fuel which meets > technical specifications "whenever it is available and financially > prudent to do so." ... It seems odd that they'd need orders to do what is prudent. But I guess they are bureaucrats. -- Susan Hogarth | colliething.com NC Ballot Access Coalition http://www.ncballotaccess.org From hogarth at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 15:24:34 2006 From: hogarth at gmail.com (Susan Hogarth) Date: Thu Feb 2 18:47:40 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] South Dakota Governor Signs Executive Order for Biodiesel Use In-Reply-To: References: <3889aa560602010652kdf54fefp1c0094bdba13efd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3889aa560602021224t6833d40od84ac1fbd55f19c6@mail.gmail.com> > On 2/1/06, Rachel Burton wrote: > > > > South Dakota governor Mike Rounds recently signed Executive Order > > 2006-01, which promotes biodiesel use in the state. Additionally, > > the governor directed the South Dakota Department of > > Transportation > > (SDDOT) to stock and use biodiesel-blended fuel which meets > > technical specifications "whenever it is available and > financially > > prudent to do so." ... > > It seems odd that they'd need orders to do what is prudent. But I > guess they are bureaucrats. On 2/1/06, Kaufman.Kathy@epamail.epa.gov wrote: > In response to Susan Hogarth, and in defense of us "bureaucrats", both > state and federal --- > > You shouldn't automatically blame DOT staff for being "bureaucrats" and > needing orders. Don't you guys know how the system works? > South Dakota DOT staffers, like the rest of us, quite likely don't have > the clout to "do what is prudent" until they can convince their > political bosses (in their case, the SD governor's office) to buck > established monied interests like utilities and oil companies. > > But then whenever you work inside the system, even if you get to do some > good things (and we do), you still get dissed. You should give the > "bureaucrats" in SD credit for convincing their bosses to do the right > thing, against the monied interests. They were probably working damn > hard behind the scenes to do that. > > Thanks for letting me vent. Keep up the good fight. Kathy, Thank you for the excellent reminder. Sometimes I forget who the real enemy is (the government) and instead focus on those people who just want to have a job doing something they like and/or are competant at, or who are brave enough to try to make the state better from *inside*. Let me rephrase my earlier snaide remark: It seems odd that they'd need orders to do what is prudent. But I guess they are working for a bunch of power-crazed morons (politicians) who are in the pockets of power-crazed smart people (businessmen who collaborate with politicians). Thanks for the correction. Good luck, and thanks! -- Susan Hogarth | colliething.com NC Ballot Access Coalition http://www.ncballotaccess.org From forrest at truffula.net Thu Feb 2 19:00:01 2006 From: forrest at truffula.net (Forrest English) Date: Thu Feb 2 22:00:13 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] South Dakota Governor Signs Executive Order for Biodiesel Use In-Reply-To: <3889aa560602021224t6833d40od84ac1fbd55f19c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3889aa560602010652kdf54fefp1c0094bdba13efd3@mail.gmail.com> <3889aa560602021224t6833d40od84ac1fbd55f19c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3FB5A204-BA79-40DC-9C41-4DF329D19314@truffula.net> On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Susan Hogarth wrote: >> But then whenever you work inside the system, even if you get to >> do some >> good things (and we do), you still get dissed. You should give the >> "bureaucrats" in SD credit for convincing their bosses to do the >> right >> thing, against the monied interests. They were probably working damn >> hard behind the scenes to do that. I think we'd be deluding ourselves to think that big ag biodiesel is "against monied interests". I can assure you large scale gmo soy oil biodiesel is firmly in the pockets of monied interests. Small scale local biodiesel from responsible crops or recycled sources, I would agree with you. However, thats not what they will buy in SD, or most anywhere else for that matter. -- Forrest English From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri Feb 3 09:24:26 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri Feb 3 10:22:24 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Biodiesel Conference at James Madison University - April 3, 2006 References: <701C5AEC44005F46948DE040CCFC3699656DA4@titan.CISAT.JMU.EDU> Message-ID: <8762E360-2C45-4B73-B230-ACAC169402FB@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: "Radocha, Lynn M." > Date: February 1, 2006 1:46:03 PM EST > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Subject: Biodiesel Conference at James Madison University - April > 3, 2006 > > The Fuels Diversification Program at James Madison University in > cooperation with Hampton Roads Clean Cities Coalition Present the > Second Virginia Biodiesel Conference ?Small Scale Production and > Use? to be held on April 3, 2006 at the James Madison University > Festival Conference and Student Center. > > Draft Agenda > > 8:15 a.m. Registration > 8:30 a.m. Welcome > 8:35 a.m. Overview > 8:45 a.m. What is Biodiesel is, Who uses it > 9:15 a.m. State Role > 9:30 a.m. How Biodiesel is Made > 10:10 a.m. Break > 10:25 a.m. What Biodiesel can be used in and Pitfalls > 10:45 a.m. How a Reactor is Made > 11:30 a.m. Farmer Panel ? Farmer Experience > 12:15 p.m. Lunch > 1:15 p.m. Glycerol Disposal > 1:45 p.m. Safety > 2:15 p.m. Commercial Availability and Use > 2:45 p.m. Manufacturer Panel > 3:30 p.m. Adjourn > Register Online > PAYMENT INFORMATION: > Please mail your check (we are not able to accept credit cards) in > the amount of $40.00 payable to JMUpostmarked by March 25, 2006 to: > L. Radocha - Biodiesel Conf. > James Madison University ? ISAT Dept. > MSC 4102 > Harrisonburg, VA 22807 > > Registrations received/postmarked after March 25, 2006 will be > subject to an additional $10.00. No refunds will be given after > March 25, 2006. Space is limited, please reply early. If you have > any questions, please contact 540-568-2766 or send an email to > radochlm@jmu.edu > > Visit http://www.cisat.jmu.edu/biodiesel/conference2006.html for > more information. > > Please forward this email to anyone who may be interested in > attending. > > > > > > From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri Feb 3 09:35:07 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri Feb 3 10:22:24 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Biodiesel Conference at James Madison University - April 3, 2006 References: <701C5AEC44005F46948DE040CCFC3699656DA4@titan.CISAT.JMU.EDU> Message-ID: <18FEAB4A-B795-4E46-B3C8-DA04AC9E44DD@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: "Radocha, Lynn M." > Date: February 1, 2006 1:46:03 PM EST > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Subject: Biodiesel Conference at James Madison University - April > 3, 2006 > > The Fuels Diversification Program at James Madison University in > cooperation with Hampton Roads Clean Cities Coalition Present the > Second Virginia Biodiesel Conference ?Small Scale Production and > Use? to be held on April 3, 2006 at the James Madison University > Festival Conference and Student Center. > > Draft Agenda > > 8:15 a.m. Registration > 8:30 a.m. Welcome > 8:35 a.m. Overview > 8:45 a.m. What is Biodiesel is, Who uses it > 9:15 a.m. State Role > 9:30 a.m. How Biodiesel is Made > 10:10 a.m. Break > 10:25 a.m. What Biodiesel can be used in and Pitfalls > 10:45 a.m. How a Reactor is Made > 11:30 a.m. Farmer Panel ? Farmer Experience > 12:15 p.m. Lunch > 1:15 p.m. Glycerol Disposal > 1:45 p.m. Safety > 2:15 p.m. Commercial Availability and Use > 2:45 p.m. Manufacturer Panel > 3:30 p.m. Adjourn > Register Online > PAYMENT INFORMATION: > Please mail your check (we are not able to accept credit cards) in > the amount of $40.00 payable to JMUpostmarked by March 25, 2006 to: > L. Radocha - Biodiesel Conf. > James Madison University ? ISAT Dept. > MSC 4102 > Harrisonburg, VA 22807 > > Registrations received/postmarked after March 25, 2006 will be > subject to an additional $10.00. No refunds will be given after > March 25, 2006. Space is limited, please reply early. If you have > any questions, please contact 540-568-2766 or send an email to > radochlm@jmu.edu > > Visit http://www.cisat.jmu.edu/biodiesel/conference2006.html for > more information. > > Please forward this email to anyone who may be interested in > attending. > > > > > > From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri Feb 3 09:34:52 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri Feb 3 10:22:31 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Biodiesel Conference at James Madison University - April 3, 2006 References: <701C5AEC44005F46948DE040CCFC3699656DA4@titan.CISAT.JMU.EDU> Message-ID: <5E8F470C-2285-4238-870D-2EE161B29195@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: "Radocha, Lynn M." > Date: February 1, 2006 1:46:03 PM EST > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Subject: Biodiesel Conference at James Madison University - April > 3, 2006 > > The Fuels Diversification Program at James Madison University in > cooperation with Hampton Roads Clean Cities Coalition Present the > Second Virginia Biodiesel Conference ?Small Scale Production and > Use? to be held on April 3, 2006 at the James Madison University > Festival Conference and Student Center. > > Draft Agenda > > 8:15 a.m. Registration > 8:30 a.m. Welcome > 8:35 a.m. Overview > 8:45 a.m. What is Biodiesel is, Who uses it > 9:15 a.m. State Role > 9:30 a.m. How Biodiesel is Made > 10:10 a.m. Break > 10:25 a.m. What Biodiesel can be used in and Pitfalls > 10:45 a.m. How a Reactor is Made > 11:30 a.m. Farmer Panel ? Farmer Experience > 12:15 p.m. Lunch > 1:15 p.m. Glycerol Disposal > 1:45 p.m. Safety > 2:15 p.m. Commercial Availability and Use > 2:45 p.m. Manufacturer Panel > 3:30 p.m. Adjourn > Register Online > PAYMENT INFORMATION: > Please mail your check (we are not able to accept credit cards) in > the amount of $40.00 payable to JMUpostmarked by March 25, 2006 to: > L. Radocha - Biodiesel Conf. > James Madison University ? ISAT Dept. > MSC 4102 > Harrisonburg, VA 22807 > > Registrations received/postmarked after March 25, 2006 will be > subject to an additional $10.00. No refunds will be given after > March 25, 2006. Space is limited, please reply early. If you have > any questions, please contact 540-568-2766 or send an email to > radochlm@jmu.edu > > Visit http://www.cisat.jmu.edu/biodiesel/conference2006.html for > more information. > > Please forward this email to anyone who may be interested in > attending. > > > > > > From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri Feb 3 12:09:17 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri Feb 3 12:08:53 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Extension Agent - Orange County NC References: <000201c628e4$e5cefd00$01fea8c0@nranells2> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > > Just wanted folks to know that Orange County, North Carolina has an > opening for a Horticulture Extension Agent. > "This agent will provide leadership for developing the horticulture > portion of the total county Extension program. This portion will > include planning, implementing, and evaluating an annual plan of > work in commercial and consumer horticulture, (including small > fruits, vegetable production, and other areas as needed); > alternative farm enterprises; pesticide education and forestry. The > agent will identify, recruit, and train volunteers (such as Master > Gardeners) to assist in programming, to serve on advisory > committees, and to provide input as needed. The agent will develop > and implement strategies for marketing Extension and Extension > programs and reporting program results to stakeholders. > Collaboration and networking with parties capable of making a > contribution to the assigned areas of responsibilities is essential." > > for more information > see > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/xvacancy/detail.php?vacancy_id=483 > http://jobs.ncsu.edu/applicants/Central?quickFind=71739 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: > 2/3/2006 From Kaufman.Kathy at epamail.epa.gov Wed Feb 1 15:04:49 2006 From: Kaufman.Kathy at epamail.epa.gov (Kaufman.Kathy@epamail.epa.gov) Date: Fri Feb 3 12:15:28 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] South Dakota Governor Signs Executive Order for Biodiesel Use In-Reply-To: <3889aa560602010652kdf54fefp1c0094bdba13efd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In response to Susan Hogarth, and in defense of us "bureaucrats", both state and federal --- You shouldn't automatically blame DOT staff for being "bureaucrats" and needing orders. Don't you guys know how the system works? South Dakota DOT staffers, like the rest of us, quite likely don't have the clout to "do what is prudent" until they can convince their political bosses (in their case, the SD governor's office) to buck established monied interests like utilities and oil companies. But then whenever you work inside the system, even if you get to do some good things (and we do), you still get dissed. You should give the "bureaucrats" in SD credit for convincing their bosses to do the right thing, against the monied interests. They were probably working damn hard behind the scenes to do that. Thanks for letting me vent. Keep up the good fight. On 2/1/06, Rachel Burton wrote: > > South Dakota governor Mike Rounds recently signed Executive Order > 2006-01, which promotes biodiesel use in the state. Additionally, > the governor directed the South Dakota Department of > Transportation > (SDDOT) to stock and use biodiesel-blended fuel which meets > technical specifications "whenever it is available and financially > prudent to do so." ... It seems odd that they'd need orders to do what is prudent. But I guess they are bureaucrats. -- Susan Hogarth | colliething.com NC Ballot Access Coalition http://www.ncballotaccess.org _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From Kaufman.Kathy at epamail.epa.gov Fri Feb 3 08:43:56 2006 From: Kaufman.Kathy at epamail.epa.gov (Kaufman.Kathy@epamail.epa.gov) Date: Fri Feb 3 12:15:29 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] South Dakota Governor Signs Executive Order for Biodiesel Use In-Reply-To: <3FB5A204-BA79-40DC-9C41-4DF329D19314@truffula.net> Message-ID: Well, that's a really good point. I don't know the landscape of the biofuels world very well. I've been lurking here to learn. Kathy Kaufman EPA/OAQPS Mail Code C504-02 Research Triangle Park, NC 27711 Phone 919 541 0102 Fax 919 541 5489 Forrest English To Sent by: biofuels_interest_group@lists.emj biofuels_interes i.net t_group-bounces@ cc lists.emji.net Subject Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] 02/02/2006 10:00 South Dakota Governor Signs PM Executive Order for Biodiesel Use On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Susan Hogarth wrote: >> But then whenever you work inside the system, even if you get to >> do some >> good things (and we do), you still get dissed. You should give the >> "bureaucrats" in SD credit for convincing their bosses to do the >> right >> thing, against the monied interests. They were probably working damn >> hard behind the scenes to do that. I think we'd be deluding ourselves to think that big ag biodiesel is "against monied interests". I can assure you large scale gmo soy oil biodiesel is firmly in the pockets of monied interests. Small scale local biodiesel from responsible crops or recycled sources, I would agree with you. However, thats not what they will buy in SD, or most anywhere else for that matter. -- Forrest English _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From wrenchwench at blast.com Sat Feb 4 17:24:40 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Sat Feb 4 17:24:17 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: NC biodiesel discussion References: <20060204195649.62407.qmail@web33209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <738F4C05-3BD1-4397-8B67-42FB70728F55@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: Metrolina Biodiesel Network > Date: February 4, 2006 2:56:49 PM EST > To: Rachel Burton > Subject: Re: NC biodiesel discussion > > Can you get this out to some places for us?? > Thanks, > Biodiesel networking/ Potluck meeting in Charlotte > Biodiesel networking/ Potluck meeting in Charlotte > > Join us at The Charlotte Church, > 1200 South Graham > Charlotte, NC > on March 11th from 3:30pm to 6pmish. > Bring a covered dish. Refreshments will be provided by us. > > Topics.. > We want to know who here in this big ol' city is interested in > biodiesel. If you are producing your own right now, please come by > and let us know how and what is going on. Come by for any reason > you can think of. Bring your children too. > > see you there, > George, Stuart, Hank, and Melvin > > metrolinabiodiesel@yahoo.com > www.metrolinabiodiesel.com > > Rachel Burton wrote: Hey guys! > > Quick notice... > > I am orga nizing a NC Biodiesel discussion next week in conjunction > with the Girl mark workshop at CCCC. Friday, Jan 20th 7-9pm. > > http://www.biofuels.coop/events/ > > I think some of y'all might be taking the workshop on the weekend? > If not.... > Any chance someone from Metrolina could come down for > Friday night? > > I am inviting folks from across the state for a networking - > roundtable discussion. > You would have the opportunity to give a 5-10 update on your > progress,goals,etc. > Wilmington, Greensboro, Burlington, and Piedmont are in. > It would be great to get the Metrolina update. > > > Let me know. > > Thanks, > > Rachel > > > > From jewreindeer at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 23:29:11 2006 From: jewreindeer at gmail.com (Matthew Rudolf) Date: Mon Feb 6 02:28:58 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] re: biodiesel recipe in Spanish Message-ID: <43E6FAC7.5070403@gmail.com> this is pretty good, but not a great guide. the problems i see are that it doesn't give good measurements on catalyst (it says to use 1/4 of a teaspoon instead of giving weights) and it says to mix for too long in the blender (30 minutes will kill a blender), although more mixing is in theory always better than not enough. it also is very vague on the titration. but i don't doubt that someone using this recipe with a new oil would make biodiesel. i also have a document on biodiesel production in spanish, just email me directly. matt Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:21:32 -0500 From: Jurgen Henn To: BIG Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] biodiesel recipe in Spanish Message-ID: <43D8DAEC.6000408@yovo.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Hola, amigos! any Spanish speakers in the house? I found this biodiesel test-batch recipe, and it seems OK, but my Spanish knowledge is too marginal: http://www.biodiesel-uruguay.com/biodiesel_casero.php Can you recommend a Spanish biodiesel homebrewing web resource? Gracias, Jurgen From cgblow at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 13:27:45 2006 From: cgblow at gmail.com (Chris Blow) Date: Mon Feb 6 13:27:50 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] re: biodiesel recipe in Spanish In-Reply-To: <43E6FAC7.5070403@gmail.com> References: <43E6FAC7.5070403@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Can you recommend a Spanish biodiesel homebrewing web resource? > > Gracias, > Jurgen > Dear all, It seems that translating this and similar documents would be an extremely useful project. I've recently gotten excited about translation as a powerful form of activism (in my case I'm translating software). A weekend's work translating a document like this could give it exposure to thousands if not millions of other potential biofuelers. But, a second thought: What about resources from non-English-speaking countries that have a longer history of using biofuels? Are we reinventing the wheel with some of this type of instructional material? Spain has been about a decade ahead of the US, as far as I can tell. Aren't their Spanish(Spain) resources that we can send to our Spanish(Uruguay) friends? And, at any rate, is there a sense that there are a lot of non-English biofuels resources that haven't reached the merely English-speaking folks? Just a thought. Chris Blow blog: http://pictr.org From girlmark_list_email at localb100.com Mon Feb 6 10:39:12 2006 From: girlmark_list_email at localb100.com (girl mark) Date: Mon Feb 6 13:39:42 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] re: biodiesel recipe in Spanish In-Reply-To: References: <43E6FAC7.5070403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E797D0.5030501@localb100.com> How about a Spanish translation of anything from biodieselcommunity.org (I think we have the 'getting started' already in SPanish, but not up on the web yet)? I"ve been asking all over the place to find someone to do that. Everyone wants to translate my book instead (which I dont' want) but completely loses interest when I suggest translating the website which would reach a lot more people if it were done. Mark Chris Blow wrote: >>Can you recommend a Spanish biodiesel homebrewing web resource? >> >>Gracias, >>Jurgen >> >> >> > > >Dear all, > >It seems that translating this and similar documents would be an >extremely useful project. I've recently gotten excited about >translation as a powerful form of activism (in my case I'm translating >software). A weekend's work translating a document like this could >give it exposure to thousands if not millions of other potential >biofuelers. > >But, a second thought: What about resources from non-English-speaking >countries that have a longer history of using biofuels? Are we >reinventing the wheel with some of this type of instructional >material? Spain has been about a decade ahead of the US, as far as I >can tell. Aren't their Spanish(Spain) resources that we can send to >our Spanish(Uruguay) friends? > >And, at any rate, is there a sense that there are a lot of non-English >biofuels resources that haven't reached the merely English-speaking >folks? > >Just a thought. > >Chris Blow >blog: http://pictr.org >_______________________________________________ >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > > From girlmark_list_email at localb100.com Mon Feb 6 10:42:18 2006 From: girlmark_list_email at localb100.com (girl mark) Date: Mon Feb 6 13:42:51 2006 Subject: Spanish language biodiesel resources Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] re: biodiesel recipe in Spanish In-Reply-To: References: <43E6FAC7.5070403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43E7988A.1040101@localb100.com> Biodieselnow.com Latin AMerica forum: http://forums.biodieselnow.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=31 Yahoogroup on the same: http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/BIODIESELHISPANOAMERICANO/?yguid=221982399 Journeytoforever.org is translated into Spanish, but most of the site is technically very inaccurate, so it's a bad thing to inflict on others. Mark Chris Blow wrote: >>Can you recommend a Spanish biodiesel homebrewing web resource? >> >>Gracias, >>Jurgen >> >> >> > > >Dear all, > >It seems that translating this and similar documents would be an >extremely useful project. I've recently gotten excited about >translation as a powerful form of activism (in my case I'm translating >software). A weekend's work translating a document like this could >give it exposure to thousands if not millions of other potential >biofuelers. > >But, a second thought: What about resources from non-English-speaking >countries that have a longer history of using biofuels? Are we >reinventing the wheel with some of this type of instructional >material? Spain has been about a decade ahead of the US, as far as I >can tell. Aren't their Spanish(Spain) resources that we can send to >our Spanish(Uruguay) friends? > >And, at any rate, is there a sense that there are a lot of non-English >biofuels resources that haven't reached the merely English-speaking >folks? > >Just a thought. > >Chris Blow >blog: http://pictr.org >_______________________________________________ >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > > From marc at theforestfoundation.org Mon Feb 6 14:34:31 2006 From: marc at theforestfoundation.org (Marc Dreyfors-President) Date: Mon Feb 6 14:39:22 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] re: biodiesel recipe in Spanish In-Reply-To: <43E797D0.5030501@localb100.com> Message-ID: This would be an excellent thing to write a grant to cover costs and should be easy to fundraise for! We need to ID a foundation or donor. USAID or IDB may help, or any number of NGO's in development, like World Neighbors, Sustainable Harvest, CARE, etc. We have translation services here in the Triangle: Chicle, that may be willing to do it for a reasonable price, or snag a student at one of the U's. Piedmont had an intern from Guatemala, who could help. Let me know if I can be of service. Marc Carolina Biodiesel -----Original Message----- From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net]On Behalf Of girl mark Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:39 PM To: Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] re: biodiesel recipe in Spanish How about a Spanish translation of anything from biodieselcommunity.org (I think we have the 'getting started' already in SPanish, but not up on the web yet)? I"ve been asking all over the place to find someone to do that. Everyone wants to translate my book instead (which I dont' want) but completely loses interest when I suggest translating the website which would reach a lot more people if it were done. Mark Chris Blow wrote: >>Can you recommend a Spanish biodiesel homebrewing web resource? >> >>Gracias, >>Jurgen >> >> >> > > >Dear all, > >It seems that translating this and similar documents would be an >extremely useful project. I've recently gotten excited about >translation as a powerful form of activism (in my case I'm translating >software). A weekend's work translating a document like this could >give it exposure to thousands if not millions of other potential >biofuelers. > >But, a second thought: What about resources from non-English-speaking >countries that have a longer history of using biofuels? Are we >reinventing the wheel with some of this type of instructional >material? Spain has been about a decade ahead of the US, as far as I >can tell. Aren't their Spanish(Spain) resources that we can send to >our Spanish(Uruguay) friends? > >And, at any rate, is there a sense that there are a lot of non-English >biofuels resources that haven't reached the merely English-speaking >folks? > >Just a thought. > >Chris Blow >blog: http://pictr.org >_______________________________________________ >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From sarah at sustainableharvest.org Mon Feb 6 14:54:38 2006 From: sarah at sustainableharvest.org (Sarah Kennedy) Date: Mon Feb 6 14:54:40 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] re: biodiesel recipe in Spanish In-Reply-To: <7a1291b60602061149k7d359581kdad88e1518a9ae86@mail.gmail.com> References: <43E6FAC7.5070403@gmail.com> <43E797D0.5030501@localb100.com> <7a1291b60602061149k7d359581kdad88e1518a9ae86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a1291b60602061154w2d651044of417447f1b230c4d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mark and Marc, We have a number of individuals who volunteer to translate documents for SHI. Many of them are students in the U.S. studying spanish. If there are specific links/pages that you would like in spanish (or from spanish to english), I would be happy to pass these along for some of our volunteers to work on, or you could certainly send a request out to Spanish Language departments in the area and see if you find anyone that is interested. Let me know if I can be of help. Please send any documents in Spanish on biofuels or related topics my way. Our programs in Honduras are very interested in learning more. Warm regards, -- Sarah Kennedy Outreach Director Sustainable Harvest International www.sustainableharvest.org Main Office 779 North Bend Rd. Surry, ME 04684 Phone: 207-669-8254 Fax: 207-669-8255 Outreach Office 180 BPW Club Rd. No J11 Carrboro, NC 27510 Phone: 919-933-9472 Planting Hope Restoring Forests Nourishing Communities On 2/6/06, girl mark wrote: > How about a Spanish translation of anything from biodieselcommunity.org > (I think we have the 'getting started' already in SPanish, but not up on > the web yet)? I"ve been asking all over the place to find someone to do > that. Everyone wants to translate my book instead (which I dont' want) > but completely loses interest when I suggest translating the website > which would reach a lot more people if it were done. > > Mark > > > Chris Blow wrote: > > >>Can you recommend a Spanish biodiesel homebrewing web resource? > >> > >>Gracias, > >>Jurgen > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >Dear all, > > > >It seems that translating this and similar documents would be an > >extremely useful project. I've recently gotten excited about > >translation as a powerful form of activism (in my case I'm translating > >software). A weekend's work translating a document like this could > >give it exposure to thousands if not millions of other potential > >biofuelers. > > > >But, a second thought: What about resources from non-English-speaking > >countries that have a longer history of using biofuels? Are we > >reinventing the wheel with some of this type of instructional > >material? Spain has been about a decade ahead of the US, as far as I > >can tell. Aren't their Spanish(Spain) resources that we can send to > >our Spanish(Uruguay) friends? > > > >And, at any rate, is there a sense that there are a lot of non-English > >biofuels resources that haven't reached the merely English-speaking > >folks? > > > >Just a thought. > > > >Chris Blow > >blog: http://pictr.org > >_______________________________________________ > >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > >Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > -- Sarah Kennedy Outreach Director Sustainable Harvest International www.sustainableharvest.org Main Office 779 North Bend Rd. Surry, ME 04684 Phone: 207-669-8254 Fax: 207-669-8255 Outreach Office 180 BPW Club Rd. No J11 Carrboro, NC 27510 Phone: 919-933-9472 Planting Hope Restoring Forests Nourishing Communities From vidrinmr at wfu.edu Tue Feb 7 11:14:15 2006 From: vidrinmr at wfu.edu (Robert Vidrine) Date: Tue Feb 7 11:14:17 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] help with an SVO conversion? Message-ID: <43E8C757.9030900@wfu.edu> Greetings everyone, I'm having some troubles with my SVO conversion, and while I'm big on motivation, I'm short some mechanical know-how. The main tank in my '85 MBZ 300D is the SVO tank, but I'm having trouble getting the fluid to the lift pump. I suspect the fuel valve (a Pollak 42-151 "6 port" valve), since I've seen lots of people writing that this valve can't handle heated SVO (some say its max. temp. is ~160F), and also because I can draw fuel through the heated SVO filter (before the valve). The problems I've heard most regarding the valve is that it leaks, leading to cross-contamination, or that occasionally it gets stuck in one position. Neither of these seem to be the problem, but maybe it's getting stuck *out* of position? (It's not quite opening the veggie lines, but is closing the diesel lines?) This system was working fine for about four months... Anyone have experience in this area? Should I just spring for some new valves (like the good-looking Frybrid valves)? Thanks! Robert 1985 MBZ From vidrinmr at wfu.edu Tue Feb 7 17:07:10 2006 From: vidrinmr at wfu.edu (Robert Vidrine) Date: Tue Feb 7 17:07:10 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] 85 MBZ turbo-rubber or viton? Message-ID: <43E91A0E.2010701@wfu.edu> Quoting Kevin Devine: "Tomorrow I am going to look at a 85 MBZ Turbo. I don't know if it is a 300D . I am wondering if it would have rubber fuel line and other rubber components or Viton." Hi Kevin, I broke this off into a separate thread. The seals in the injection pump (probably lift pump, too) are rubber. I don't think viton became common until several years later. I have run some (not much) biodiesel in my '85 MBZ 300D without any issues. I also consulted with one of the folks who work in the BioD coop in Asheville (can't remember the name... Blue Ridge Biodiesel, maybe?) and they said they had virtually the same car and had run B100 for over 10,000 miles with no issues. Others I have talked to have proposed that the seals in the IP and elsewhere shouldn't be affected much by the B100, as they don't have *that* much contact with the fuel. Remember that this is all just anecdotal. The purist would want to replace everything that wouldn't last for another 200K miles with the chosen fuel. If it's convenient to change these seals, definitely do it. If it's not (you're not already digging around in the engine, replacing nearby stuff), then it's a personal decision whether you think it will last under your usage of Biodiesel. Good luck! Robert PS-I think it's likely to be a 300D. These seem to be the most common and popular of that era. Of course, it could be an 300SD or 300SDL. These are in my opinion not as preferable, but also good. From adams13 at adelphia.net Tue Feb 7 21:01:54 2006 From: adams13 at adelphia.net (Chris Adams) Date: Tue Feb 7 21:02:02 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Re: Biofuels_Interest_Group Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <20050903020707.B253DC7973@mail2.blast.com> References: <20050903020707.B253DC7973@mail2.blast.com> Message-ID: <43E95112.4080600@adelphia.net> To the readers interested in Spanish language info go to http://journeytoforever.org Peace, Chris. biofuels_interest_group-request@lists.emji.net wrote: >Send Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list submissions to > biofuels_interest_group@lists.emji.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > biofuels_interest_group-request@lists.emji.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > biofuels_interest_group-owner@lists.emji.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Biofuels_Interest_Group digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Renewable Energy Tax Credits (Mark Ambrose) > 2. Biofuels briefing in DC Oct 5th (Rachel Burton) > 3. Biodiesel Bulletin - Sept. 1, 2005 (Rachel Burton) > 4. Re: Renewable Energy Tax Credits (Mark Ambrose) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:34:04 -0400 >From: Mark Ambrose >To: biofuels_interest_group@lists.emji.net >Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Renewable Energy Tax Credits >Message-ID: <4317AC0C.7070701@alumni.princeton.edu> >In-Reply-To: >References: <43160BD0.9040301@safenet-inc.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Message: 1 > >While visiting the NC Dept. of Revenue web page today, I noticed that >NC's 35% tax credit on renewable energy systems is set to sunset on Jan >1st of 2006. Does anyone know if the legislature renewed those tax >credits this session? > >Also, I don't know how this tax credit might be used by the Coop, but if >it wasn't renewed, the credit applies to the cost of equipment "put in >service" by Dec 31, 2005. > > > >>2. We are probably a year away from having local production online >>(1-4 million gallons/year facility) >> >> >> >> > >So is there any way to cut 8 months off that timetable? > >-- Mark > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:01:14 -0400 >From: Rachel Burton >To: Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biofuels briefing in DC Oct 5th >Message-ID: <124406AF-6461-4341-80AF-E66B4A59555B@blast.com> >References: <14338147.1125587459910.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Message: 2 > > > >> Biofuels Briefing in Washington, DC >> 05 October 2005 >> Before the Hart World Refining & Fuels >>Conference! >>I cordially invite you on behalf of the International Fuel Quality >>Center (IFQC) to attend our next IFQC Fuel Quality Policy & >>Technology Briefing on October 5, 2005, at the Capital Hilton in >>Washington, D.C. The Briefing will focus on biofuels issues and is >>being organized by IFQC's new Biofuels Center. The preliminary >>agenda is available here . >> >>To register for the Briefing, contact Gretta Pieper, Manager, >>Customer Services at gpieper@ifqc.org or +1-713-993-9325 ext. 175. >>Registration is free for all IFQC members. Registration for non- >>members is $495; for government and NGOs, $295. For inquiries >>about this Briefing or for information about IFQC and the Biofuels >>Center, please contact me directly at tklein@ifqc.org or >>+1-703-891-4821. >> >>I hope to see you at the Briefing on October 5! We have an >>interesting program planned and look forward to your >>participation! I also invite you to stay for the Hart Global >>Energy Policy Conference that begins immediately following the >>Briefing. For more information, please visit >>www.worldfuelsconferences.com . When you register for this >>conference, you are also invited to attend the 5th Annual Global >>Energy & Environmental Excellence Awards! Click here to view a >>video about this event. >> >>Best regards! >> >>Tammy Klein >> >>Director, Global Biofuels & Americas >>IFQC Biofuels Center >>+1-703-891-4821 >>www.ifqcbiofuels.org >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:05:14 -0400 >From: Rachel Burton >To: Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Bulletin - Sept. 1, 2005 >Message-ID: >References: <639471.1125614549931.JavaMail.atg@atg2.prod> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Precedence: list >Message: 3 > > > >>In This Issue >> >> > > > >>September 1, 2005 >> >>President Signs Two Substantial Biodiesel Bills into Law >>IRS Clarifies Direction on Biodiesel Tax Incentive >>New Uses for Glycerin Could Include Biodegradable Packaging >>USDA Suggests Designated Biobased Federal Products >>BioTrucker.com: A New Resource for Truckers >> >>Register for 2006 National Biodiesel Conf. & Expo >>Indiana Welcomes its First Biodiesel Plant >>Biodiesel to make Encore Performance at Farm Aid >>Coolfuel Roadtrip Series Rolls with Biodiesel >>Georgia Gets its First Biodiesel Pump >> President Signs Two Substantial Biodiesel Bills into Law >> >>President George W. Bush on August 8 signed the landmark Energy =20 >>Bill that includes key provisions to promote cleaner burning =20 >>biodiesel. The bill passed with several provisions to promote =20 >>biodiesel=92s growth, including the extension of a federal excise tax =20= >> >> > > > >>credit, the biodiesel industry=92s number one priority. >> >>The tax incentive, established originally as part of the American =20 >>JOBS Creation Act of 2004, would have expired in 2006. It will now =20 >>be extended through 2008 thanks to Congressional champions such as =20 >>Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) and Jim =20 >>Talent (R-MO) and Congressmen Kenny Hulshof (R-MO) and Earl Pomeroy =20= >> >> > > > >>(D-N.D.). The excise tax credit provides an incentive to fuel =20 >>distributors to blend biodiesel into diesel fuel and to help reduce =20= >> >> > > > >>costs to consumers. The credit amounts to a dollar per gallon for =20 >>=93agri-biodiesel,=94 such as that made from soybean oil, and 50 cents = >> >> >=20 > > >>per gallon for biodiesel made from recycled cooking oil. >> >>Sen. Talent also helped create the small producer tax credit for =20 >>agri-biodiesel, as well as helped secure the 7.5 billion gallon =20 >>Renewable Fuels Standard in the Energy Bill that sets America on =20 >>course for greater use of biodiesel and ethanol. >> >>In addition, the Energy Bill creates a credit for alternative fuel =20 >>refueling installations, including those that dispense B20. The =20 >>Energy Bill also supports demonstration and testing projects that =20 >>use biodiesel, like university stationary generators. It also =20 >>encourages the Departments of the Interior, Commerce and =20 >>Agriculture to use energy efficient vehicle technologies, including =20= >> >> > > > >>biodiesel. The Energy Bill states that biodiesel is eligible for =20 >>the Clean Bus program that the Environmental Protection Agency =20 >>(EPA) administers for schools. >> >>On August 10, the President signed into law the Transportation =20 >>Bill, which contains funding critical to ensure acceptance of =20 >>biodiesel in future diesel engines. Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO), chairman =20 >>of the Senate Transportation and Infrastructure subcommittee, =20 >>helped secure an $8 million program for biodiesel research to be =20 >>conducted by the National Biodiesel Board. >> >>Further, in response to an EPA ruling, all engine companies are =20 >>currently developing new clean diesel technology that will begin =20 >>entering the market in 2007. The bill=92s funds, which will be =20 >>leveraged with industry dollars, will give the biodiesel industry =20 >>the opportunity to incorporate biodiesel into these engine testing =20 >>programs. >> >>Other biodiesel highlights of the bill include the eligibility of =20 >>biodiesel under the scope of the Congestion Mitigation Air Quality =20 >>(CMAQ) funding program for seven states; changes to the Clean Fuels =20= >> >> > > > >>Grant Program that specifically list biodiesel as eligible; a grant =20= >> >> > > > >>program for parks to increase their alternative transportation =20 >>projects and an Alternative Fuels Study. >>back to top >> >> >> IRS Clarifies Direction on Biodiesel Tax Incentive >> >>In a move that is expected to increase biodiesel sales, the =20 >>Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has issued a modified guidance =20 >>document for the biodiesel federal excise tax credit. >> >>The excise tax credit amounts to a dollar per gallon for =93agri-=20 >>biodiesel,=94 such as that made from soybean oil, and 50 cents per =20 >>gallon for biodiesel made from recycled cooking oil. It is taken at =20= >> >> > > > >>the blender level with the intended effect of lowering the cost of =20 >>biodiesel to consumers in taxable and tax exempt markets. >> >>Although this document is not the final rulemaking, it amends the =20 >>initial guidance document (IRS Notice 2005-4) published in December =20= >> >> > > > >>2004, by clarifying several specific issues. Those include, among =20 >>other things: >>Clarification of what constitutes a =93Biodiesel Mixture=94 (one = >> >> >gallon =20 > > >>of diesel fuel blended into 999 gallons of biodiesel, or =93B99.9=94). >> >>Clarification that a biodiesel mixture includes both dyed and un-=20 >>dyed fuel. This means the incentive will apply in the heating oil =20 >>market as well as the off-road market. >> >>Clarification of the biodiesel certification process for sales of =20 >>biodiesel through a reseller. This creates a mechanism so that the =20 >>tax incentive claimant may obtain the required biodiesel =20 >>certificate directly from the biodiesel producer or indirectly from =20= >> >> > > > >>a biodiesel reseller. >> >>Provisions for commingling of biodiesel and agri-biodiesel. >> >>Clarification on eligible feedstocks for agri-biodiesel (palm and =20 >>fish oil will qualify for agri-biodiesel incentive). >> >>Clarifications on applicable forms to claim credit and credit =20 >>calculation. >> >> >>To view the IRS guidance, visit http://nbb.org/news/taxincentive/=20 >>Biodiesel%20Notice%202005-62.pdf. >>back to top >> >> >>New Uses for Glycerin Could Include Biodegradable Packaging >> >>Combining glycerol and the agricultural commodity citric acid can =20 >>make a new product, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) =20 >>announced in August. The USDA Agricultural Research Service (ARS) =20 >>discovered that biodegradable packaging from the biodegradable =20 >>polymers of this combination could create a new market for glycerin =20= >> >> > > > >>left over from the production of biodiesel. >> >>Because one attribute of citric acid is that it is used in the food =20= >> >> > > > >>industry as a retardant to browning in cut fruits and vegetables, =20 >>the new citric acid-based polyesters may prove useful as a =20 >>packaging material. The complete text of the news release is posted =20= >> >> > > > >>at www.ars.usda.gov/News/docs.htm?docid=3D1261. >>back to top >> >> >>USDA Suggests Designated Biobased Federal Products >> >>The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) is calling for comments, =20 >>with an early September deadline, on their suggested biobased =20 >>products for purchase by federal agencies. The Farm Bill of 2002 =20 >>called for greater use of biobased products by the federal =20 >>government. Under a proposed rule published in July, one of the =20 >>many categories is diesel fuel additives. Most of the categories =20 >>could not be classified by the size of the potential market, but =20 >>the agency did note that the Department of Energy anticipates a =20 >>large potential market for the use of biodiesel as a diesel fuel =20 >>additive. >> >>Once the ruling is announced, prospective manufacturers of the =20 >>qualifying product can post their product and contact information =20 >>on the program=92s Web site. Agencies looking to procure products in =20= >> >> > > > >>those categories will then have to give preference to the biobased =20 >>products. The USDA is accepting comments on the diesel fuel =20 >>additive category, with the other first five categories, through =20 >>September 6. >> >>Visit the program=92s Web site; the proposed rule can be read at =20 >>www.biobased.oce.usda.gov/public/pro_regs.cfm. Please give any =20 >>comments via www.regulations.gov or use other correspondence means, =20= >> >> > > > >>per the program=92s Web site. >>back to top >> >> >> BioTrucker.com: A New Resource for Truckers >> >>The over the road truck drivers=92 market has expanded rapidly =20 >>recently, and in response to their growing demand for biodiesel =20 >>information, the National Biodiesel Board has created a new Web =20 >>site: www.biotrucker.com. >> >>Willie Nelson Biodiesel, the company formed by the widely adored =20 >>singer and biodiesel promoter, as well as the recent federal =20 >>biodiesel tax incentive, played a substantial part in feeding the =20 >>interest of truckers. >> >>Truckers will have access to facts, news and availability of =20 >>biodiesel, as well as other general trucking news. They will also =20 >>be able to join discussion boards and check road, traffic and =20 >>weather conditions, and other links useful to their industry. >>back to top >> >> >>Register for 2006 National Biodiesel Conf. & Expo >> >>Registration is up and running for the third annual National =20 >>Biodiesel Conference & Expo to be held in San Diego Feb. 5-8, 2006 =20 >>in San Diego. A new Web site, www.biodieselconference.org is =20 >>devoted to registration for this annually growing event, as well as =20= >> >> > > > >>the most up to date information on the offerings of the conference. >> >>The premier level of education on biodiesel is available at the =20 >>conference sessions in tracks such as marketing, users, technical, =20 >>petroleum and original equipment manufacturers. >> >>With an already large list of exhibitors confirmed, this promises =20 >>to be yet another enriching conference with networking and =20 >>educational opportunities. With Super Bowl Sunday setting the tone =20 >>during the conference, there=92s plenty of room for catching some =20 >>entertainment, too. >>back to top >> >> >> Indiana Welcomes its First Biodiesel Plant >> >>Indiana will soon have its first soy biodiesel production facility, =20= >> >> > > > >>in rural east central Indiana. Integrity Biofuels selected this =20 >>Shelby County town of Morristown because it is located near Bunge =20 >>North America=92s Morristown facility, one of eight soybean =20 >>processing plants in the state. >> >>=93As we looked at potential production facility sites throughout the =20= >> >> > > > >>Midwest, we found a match in Morristown,=94 said Integrity Biofuels =20= >> >> > > > >>CEO Charles Whittington. =93In this site, we had access to an =20 >>adequate supply of high-quality refined soybean oil, which is the =20 >>key ingredient to soy biodiesel production. We also found in =20 >>Morristown a Chamber of Commerce and a town board that welcomed our =20= >> >> > > > >>renewable fuel company with community support, an infrastructure =20 >>critical for long-term business success, and valued tax incentives.=94 >> >>Integrity Biofuels, a member of the National Biodiesel Board, has =20 >>purchased an existing building/warehouse and expects to be in the =20 >>business of selling the domestic fuel by early 2006, said =20 >>Whittington, a Hoosier native. Indiana=92s first biodiesel production =20= >> >> > > > >>facility will employee five to seven workers and produce 10 million =20= >> >> > > > >>gallons of biodiesel annually though company officials are already =20 >>making plans to grow annual production. In its first year of =20 >>production, Integrity Biofuels will utilize 6.7 million bushels of =20 >>Hoosier soybeans. >> >>=93We are clearly excited to have Indiana=92s first biodiesel =20 >>production plant announced,=94 said Chris Novak, Executive Director =20= >> >> > > > >>of the Indiana Soybean Board. =93It comes at a critical time in =20 >>Indiana based upon the growing demand. This plant will help us meet =20= >> >> > > > >>consumer enthusiasm for biodiesel. The launching of Indiana=92s first =20= >> >> > > > >>biodiesel production plant has truly been a team effort with strong =20= >> >> > > > >>support and investment coming from state government, coupled with =20 >>the investment of Indiana=92s soybean producer checkoff dollars to =20 >>help build the distribution infrastructure for biodiesel at retail =20 >>pumps.=94 >> >>Within the state borders, Hoosiers purchased nearly 400,000 gallons =20= >> >> > > > >>of biodiesel last year. In 2005, the Indiana Soybean Board =20 >>estimates that Hoosier diesel owners will demand close to 4 million =20= >> >> > > > >>gallons of pure biodiesel. The biodiesel offered to Indiana =20 >>distillate customers today is primarily produced in Ohio or Iowa. >>back to top >> >> >> Biodiesel to make Encore Performance at Farm Aid >> >>Farm Aid will be using biodiesel in its all-star lineup again this =20 >>year. Willie Nelson, Farm Aid President, has been a longtime =20 >>proponent of the renewable fuel and has formed his own biodiesel =20 >>company in the past year, Willie Nelson Biodiesel. The concert for =20 >>family farmers is hosted by Nelson, Neil Young, John Mellencamp and =20= >> >> > > > >>Dave Matthews, the artists who make up its board of directors. The =20 >>Tweeter Center in Tinley Park, Ill., will be the Sept. 18 venue. >> >>In addition to biodiesel use in the generators at Farm Aid for the =20 >>second year, the National Biodiesel Board plans to have an =20 >>involvement at the series of events on Farm Aid weekend. >> >>Stepan Co. of Northfield, Ill., will supply the B100 fuel for the =20 >>generators. For more information about Farm Aid=92s concerts or =20 >>events in the week leading up to Sept. 18, visit www.farmaid.org. >>back to top >> >> >>Coolfuel Roadtrip Series Rolls with Biodiesel >> >>The "Coolfuel Roadtrip" is unveiling its travels to a TV audience =20 >>in October. Under the former name of Eco-Trekker, this group of =20 >>Australians traveled over 16,000 miles on a road trip across the =20 >>U.S. using renewable fuels to reach their destinations. One of the =20 >>Coolfuel episodes will feature biodiesel, but all of the shows have =20= >> >> > > > >>biodiesel, through its use in support vehicles. >> >>The show has been picked up by several networks and will be airing =20 >>starting September 9 in 65 percent of the United States, with the =20 >>possibility of spreading to other markets as well, and re-airing at =20= >> >> > > > >>later dates. You can get a listing of stations in your area that =20 >>will be carrying "Coolfuel Roadtrip," and details of the show, by =20 >>going to www.coolfuelroadtrip.com and clicking on the 'Station =20 >>Listings' icon at the top of the page. >> >>The creators of the series do not know exactly what order each =20 >>station will air the episodes, but the first four weeks will be =20 >>episodes 1-4 (see episode guides on the Web site). The networks =20 >>have advised the Coolfuel crew that episode 2, featuring biodiesel, =20= >> >> > > > >>airs the weekend of September 17-18. The episodes are broken down =20 >>into fuels used, and areas of the country that were visited, on the =20= >> >> > > > >>Web site at www.coolfuelroadtriptv.com/episode.html. >> >>The National Biodiesel Board helped the Coolfuel Roadtrip crew with =20= >> >> > > > >>support along the way. >>back to top >> >> >>Georgia Gets its First Biodiesel Pump >> >>The Peach State has broken into the biodiesel retail pump market =20 >>with its first biodiesel pump, in a B20 (twenty percent biodiesel, =20 >>80 percent diesel) blend in Rome. Enterprise Oil Co. is marketing =20 >>this U.S. Biofuels product to Rock-It BP, the home of the state=92s =20= >> >> > > > >>first biodiesel pump. This 24-hour BP station is a truck stop with =20 >>large truck access. >> >>U.S. Biofuels is a producer of biodiesel and a member of the =20 >>National Biodiesel Board. >>back to top >> >> >> Upcoming Events >> >> >> >>Renewable Finance 2005 Infocast >>Sept. 8, 2005 >>Sheraton Colonial Hotel and Gold Club >>infocastinc.com >> >> >>BioCycle Conf. on Renewable Energy-Organics Recycling >>Sept. 12 >>Madison, Wisconsin >>jgpress.com/conferences1/conferences1.html >> >> >>Transport and Sustainable Mobility >>Sept. 19 >>Brussels, Belgium >>euconferences.com >> >> >>Energy Independence Days (North Carolina) >>(Regional Wind Summit, The End of Oil Beginning Now, Summit of =20 >>Colleges for Sustainability, and Fair) >>September 19-24, 2005 >>NC State University and Central Carolina Comm. College >>Raleigh, NC and Pittsboro, NC >> >> >>Refueling America workshop and luncheon >>Sept. 21 >>NC State University >>www.trianglecleancities.org >> >> >>Annual Meeting Biodiesel Congress >>IBC - International Business Communications >>October 17-18 >>Rio de Janeiro >>Ph. 5511 30176888 >>biodiesel@ibcbrasil.com.br >>www.ibcbrasil.com.br/biodiesel >> >> >>2005 World Biofuels Symposium-China >>Nov. 13-15 >>Beijing >>www.worldbiofuelssymposium.com >> >> >>World Methanol Conference >>Dec. 12 >>South Beach, Fla. >>www.cmaiglobal.com/index.html?conference/2005WMC/confwmc.htm >> >> >>National Biodiesel Conference >>Feb. 5-8, 2005 >>San Diego >>www.biodieselconference.org >>back to top >> >> Contact Us >> >>Jenna Higgins, Director of Communications >>jhiggins@biodiesel.orgBev Thessen, Information Coordinator >>bthessen@biodiesel.org >> >> >>This bulletin is also available in PDF format online at >>http://www.biodiesel.org/news/bulletin/ >>back to to >> >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:15:00 -0400 >From: Mark Ambrose >To: biofuels_interest_group@lists.emji.net >Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Re: Renewable Energy Tax Credits >Message-ID: <43190724.1030705@alumni.princeton.edu> >In-Reply-To: <4317AC0C.7070701@alumni.princeton.edu> >References: <43160BD0.9040301@safenet-inc.com> > > <4317AC0C.7070701@alumni.princeton.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Message: 4 > >Good news. I just found out that not only did the State legislature >renew the tax credits last week, but they also expanded them. The max. >tax credit for commercial renewable energy systems has been increased >from $250,000 to $2,500,000. > >Also, for folks considering home solar systems, next year is the year to >do them. NC has a 35% tax credit that applies to solar hot water and >photovoltaic systems (among other things). In 2006 and 2007 there will >also be a 30% federal tax credit available to folks installing solar hot >water or photovoltaic systems. The way the 2 credits combine mean that >homeowners will be able to recover about 55% of the costs of a ty[ical >solar hot water system. That would cut the payback period for such a >system down to around 5 yrs. > >-- Mark > > >Mark Ambrose wrote: > > > >>While visiting the NC Dept. of Revenue web page today, I noticed that >>NC's 35% tax credit on renewable energy systems is set to sunset on >>Jan 1st of 2006. Does anyone know if the legislature renewed those >>tax credits this session? >> >>Also, I don't know how this tax credit might be used by the Coop, but >>if it wasn't renewed, the credit applies to the cost of equipment "put >>in service" by Dec 31, 2005. >> >> >> >>>2. We are probably a year away from having local production online >>>(1-4 million gallons/year facility) >>> >>> >>> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > >End of Biofuels_Interest_Group Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 >***************************************************** > > > From biodiesel at yovo.info Tue Feb 7 21:44:06 2006 From: biodiesel at yovo.info (Jurgen Henn) Date: Tue Feb 7 21:44:11 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Re: Biofuels_Interest_Group Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <43E95112.4080600@adelphia.net> References: <20050903020707.B253DC7973@mail2.blast.com> <43E95112.4080600@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43E95AF6.2030302@yovo.info> The Biodiesel info on JtF is really bad, both in English and in Spanish. If I understand it right, they interpret soap as a problem, and thus recommend too little catalyst in their basic recipe, which produces incomplete reactions. Don't take my word for it, search these forums for "journeytoforever" http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/ and you'll learn more than you ever wanted to know about those guys ... Best, Jurgen Chris Adams wrote: > To the readers interested in Spanish language info go to > http://journeytoforever.org > > Peace, Chris. > From wrenchwench at blast.com Thu Feb 9 00:50:33 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Thu Feb 9 00:49:57 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Co-op Conference, Colorado, July References: <1138897898.946.12069.m16@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:43:11 -0800 > From: girl mark > Subject: Biodiesel Co-op Conference, Colorado, July > > Several biodiesel advocates and I are organizing a conference this > summer, to focus specifically on biodiesel co-ops- for example: groups > such as homebrew groups, advocacy/education groups, and small > distributors/bulk buy co-ops. SVO 'group' topics are welcome though to > my knowledge it has not been attempted as often as biodiesel group > activity. > > We're hoping that this conference may make it easier to share > information about what has worked or not worked for biodiesel co-ops- > for instance, homebrewing in groups has proven to be very difficult > but > has a lot of potential if done right, and continues to be > attractive as > fuel prices climb higher. > Also, many past biodiesel events have focused mostly on the biodiesel > industry or on lobbying/legislative efforts, while there is also a > strong movement toward 'local', non-industry activity across the > United > States that now makes biodiesel available in many communities. > > Currently we're talking to a university near Denver- if held there, > the > conference would be in mid-July, and will include optional dorm > housing > (under $30 a night) and cafeteria meals ($21 a day for all meals). > We're > hoping to make the actual event admission price inexpensive as well- > event costs should be minimal outside of classroom rental and handouts > printing costs. Denver is cheap to fly to from most other airports, > and > there are many 'tourist' attractions nearby at that time of year for > those who would like to travel with their families on vacation. There > are a number of small producers and homebrewers in the Denver/Boulder > area, and they have had several years of experience to share- groups > like Boulder Biodiesel, which formerly had a retail space for > commercial > fuel distribution and homebrewing/education, and CU Biodiesel, a > campus > group at CU Boulder. > > We are proposing the following 'tracks' for conference sessions to > fall > into: > > a. 'case studies' track in which members of biodiesel co-ops present > what their groups do and how it has worked for them > > b. a 'technical track/homebrewing groups track', in which groups who > homebrew could discuss the production technology/techniques that makes > 'homebrewing in co-ops/groups' work efficiently, > > c. an 'education track' covering topics specific to biodiesel > groups who > do public advocacy and education, and > > d. a 'distribution track' covering groups who sell or group-purchase > commercial biodiesel together. > > > I am interested in finding people to present 50-minute sessions for > those tracks- you do not have to be an experienced public speaker to > make an impact at this event- we really need to hear about your > real-world experiences in biodiesel groups, and most sessions are > likely > to incorporate a lot of 'question and answer' discussion with the > audience . Sessions can be lead by multiple people , for those of you > new to public speaking who would like a little help organizing your > audience. I've been having off-list discussion of this with a > number of > biodiesel co-op members for a few months now, and it looks like we > should have quite a few who can make it at that time of year and would > be available to speak. Also, the 'track' structure is very > tentative and > open to change if someone comes up with a better idea for structuring > the event differently. If you have a biodiesel community topic you'd > like to cover which falls outside the track structure, please > submit it > anyway. > > > For discussion of organizing the Localizing Biodiesel event, I have > started a thread for organizers/suggestions: > > http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11044 > please post suggestions and ideas there. I'll be posting updates there > and at these Yahoogroups, as they become available. > > For those who want to be on a mailing list for updates only without > participating in day-to-day conference planning discussion, I have > started an announcements-only mailing list (no discussion so you > aren't > flooded with unwanted email) at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biodieselconference . There will be > under > 5 messages a month with updates about event details, as they become > available. > > We will have a web page at www.boulderbiodiesel.com soon. > > > > thank you, > Mark > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/local-b100-biz/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > local-b100-biz-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > From wrenchwench at blast.com Thu Feb 9 00:50:06 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Thu Feb 9 13:30:56 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Alternative Fuel References: <0DD6A911-DFE2-45D0-81AB-D94E004319F3@sortofa.com> Message-ID: <3BB44418-3F3C-472D-A157-570BC7D00720@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > > -------------- next part -------------- From gbhamra at email.unc.edu Sun Feb 12 15:42:56 2006 From: gbhamra at email.unc.edu (Ghassan Hamra) Date: Sun Feb 12 16:39:30 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] looking for used biodiesel car. Message-ID: <43EF9DD0.1090401@email.unc.edu> hi, I was just looking to be kept updated on any biodiesel cars that might go on sale. Ideally, i'm looking for a VW wagon of some soft (5speed if possible), but a smaller pick up or something like that might interest me too. Thanks! From john.bonitz at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 12:44:57 2006 From: john.bonitz at gmail.com (John Bonitz) Date: Wed Feb 15 12:45:09 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Automakers eye cleaner diesel technology but problems linger - Feb. 13, 2006 In-Reply-To: <26267291.1139862616007.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> References: <26267291.1139862616007.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> Message-ID: <84a57a420602150944ia7d35e9p35bae2c855d6340c@mail.gmail.com> Interesting article. Nice photos and links in the web version. A pity the automakers are sticking with that stupid, short-sighted view: "If we can't sell it in all 50 states, we won't sell it at all." -- John Bonitz Silk Hope, NC www.biofuels.coop ************************************ http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/13/Autos/diesel/index.htm?cnn=yes Diesel: Using oil to cut oil use The fuel could be the quickest and most efficient way to make a big cut in U.S. oil consumption. But there are problems. By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer February 13, 2006: 4:31 PM EST NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Could diesel fuel be the methadone needed to help solve the nation's "oil addiction?" Advocates for diesel -- a less refined fuel than gasoline that burns more completely in the engine, delivering more power -- say it can cut oil use, perhaps more quickly and cost effectively than alternatives such as hybrids and ethanol. [PHOTO] The Mercedes BlueTec diesel engine, the first one that will apparently meet the stricter U.S. environmental regulations that go into effect with the 2007 model year. The major automakers have long built diesel engines in Europe, such as this British Ford plant, but such engines would not meet U.S. environmental regulations. Diesels are more fuel efficient than gasoline engines, and often provide greater fuel savings even than the gas-electric hybrid vehicles garnering attention as gas prices have surged. The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that if one-third of cars and light trucks, such as SUVs and minivans, had diesel engines, it would save the equivalent of U.S. oil imports from Saudi Arabia. Diesel fuel is also far more widely available than some alternative fuels such as ethanol that were highlighted by President Bush when lamented the nation's oil addiction in his State of the Union address last month. Nearly half of the nation's filling stations already carry diesel, compared to less than 5 percent that offer an 85-percent ethanol blend known as E85. But new environmental regulations pose a problem for automakers, stopping all of them other than DaimlerChrysler's luxury Mercedes brand from setting a date for a diesel engine introduction in cars and light trucks. Even Volkswagen, which has the largest range of diesel-powered cars and light truck offerings now on the market, may have to pull out of the market at least temporarily, as it can't say when it will be able to meet the new regulations that go into effect with the 2007 model year. It's also not clear how easy it will be to sell diesels to the "green" consumer who might be willing to pay a premium to cut down on emissions. "A lot of education has to take place," said Anthony Pratt of J.D. Power & Associates. "They're not slow and smelly... that they're actually more environmentally friendly than people might think. But our research shows that they're a tough sell to those buyers." Advocates say diesel is close to meeting the new regulations. One reason is that all major automakers already have diesel offerings they sell in Europe, where more than half of cars and light trucks already run on diesel. All those European engines need are modifications to comply with stricter U.S. environmental regulations. "We're not introducing a new technology, we're introducing a new generation of old technology," said Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum, a trade group of diesel engine manufacturers and automakers. "It's not like the hybrids, where there were none when they first started to be introduced." Weighty matters Diesels have an inherent advantage over hybrids during highway driving, when the hybrid's electric motor is essentially not in use and thus is extra weight being carried along. Diesel also has some built-in efficiency advantages for heavier vehicles, which is why it is so widely used by buses and large trucks. Therefore, they could see their greatest use in some current gas-guzzling models, such as larger SUVs and pickups, as well as in some luxury vehicles in which the extra cost could be balanced by a buyer's demands for more performance. "The fun-to-drive factor is really high," said Michelle Murad, a spokeswoman for Mercedes USA, which has found stronger-than-anticipated demand for its current diesel offering here. This fall, cleaner low-sulfur fuel will start arriving at those filling stations, holding out the promise of diesel engines that pollute less than many gasoline-powered cars do. And if bio-fuels start to spread in popularity, just about every diesel engine can run a bio-diesel. Right now, only 3 percent of cars and light trucks have diesel engines, and most of those are heavy-duty pickup trucks, such as the Ford F-250, that don't have to meet the same emission standards as smaller trucks and cars. Less than 1 percent of cars and traditional light trucks, such as the F-150, are now diesel, according to figures from the Power Information Network. Those vehicles can't be sold in five states, including California and New York, due to tougher air standards there. "We will not sell a vehicle here unless we can sell in all 50 states," said Ford spokesman Nick Twork. "Part of it is just a business equation -- it's tough to sell vehicles that are closed out to that large a segment of the market." Tougher nationwide The new regulations will essentially level the playing field nationwide. But they will be much tougher than standards now in effect in the other 45 states, essentially requiring a diesel to be as clean burning as a gasoline-powered car. Part of the problem of complying with the new regulations is that the most cost effective and fuel-efficient way to do so is by injecting urea into the engine. But an engine that runs out of urea would still operate, but would cause more pollution as it continues to run. That would violate EPA regulations requiring emission controls to last more than 100,000 miles without the vehicle owner taking any affirmative steps such as refilling missing fluids. Some diesel advocates are hoping the EPA will relax that rule, allowing car owners to refill their urea tank when they change their oil or fill up with diesel. But it's not clear EPA even has the authority to allow that to happen. Then there is the problem that has limited the spread of most fuel efficiency improvements in the U.S. automotive fleet -- the relatively low price of gasoline here. In Europe, where gasoline is taxed to bring it to more than $5 a gallon and diesel enjoys some tax advantages, there's a lot more incentive for drivers to pull up to the diesel pump. Charlie Freese, General Motors' executive director of diesel engineering, said that even if environmental regulations were identical in Europe and the United States, the difference in fuel prices would keep the use of diesel here well below the European levels. It's also why he won't make projections as to how well diesel vehicles will do in the U.S. "What's driven a lot of the penetration (in Europe) is the fuel price," he said. "My crystal ball is not that clear. If you look at them on economics, the small cars will not provide payback on diesel (at current gas prices). But there are things that diesel does that customers seem to like." From john.bonitz at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 13:16:20 2006 From: john.bonitz at gmail.com (John Bonitz) Date: Wed Feb 15 13:16:20 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Automakers eye cleaner diesel technology but problems linger - Feb. 13, 2006 In-Reply-To: <26267291.1139862616007.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> References: <26267291.1139862616007.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> Message-ID: <84a57a420602151016x23dce652oa1b9a4cc73ce5ec7@mail.gmail.com> Interesting article. Nice photos and links in the web version. A pity the automakers are sticking with that stupid, short-sighted view; "If we can't sell it in all 50 states, we won't sell it at all." -- John Bonitz Silk Hope, NC www.biofuels.coop ************************************ http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/13/Autos/diesel/index.htm?cnn=yes Diesel: Using oil to cut oil use The fuel could be the quickest and most efficient way to make a big cut in U.S. oil consumption. But there are problems. By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer February 13, 2006: 4:31 PM EST NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Could diesel fuel be the methadone needed to help solve the nation's "oil addiction?" Advocates for diesel -- a less refined fuel than gasoline that burns more completely in the engine, delivering more power -- say it can cut oil use, perhaps more quickly and cost effectively than alternatives such as hybrids and ethanol. [PHOTO] The Mercedes BlueTec diesel engine, the first one that will apparently meet the stricter U.S. environmental regulations that go into effect with the 2007 model year. The major automakers have long built diesel engines in Europe, such as this British Ford plant, but such engines would not meet U.S. environmental regulations. Diesels are more fuel efficient than gasoline engines, and often provide greater fuel savings even than the gas-electric hybrid vehicles garnering attention as gas prices have surged. The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that if one-third of cars and light trucks, such as SUVs and minivans, had diesel engines, it would save the equivalent of U.S. oil imports from Saudi Arabia. Diesel fuel is also far more widely available than some alternative fuels such as ethanol that were highlighted by President Bush when lamented the nation's oil addiction in his State of the Union address last month. Nearly half of the nation's filling stations already carry diesel, compared to less than 5 percent that offer an 85-percent ethanol blend known as E85. But new environmental regulations pose a problem for automakers, stopping all of them other than DaimlerChrysler's luxury Mercedes brand from setting a date for a diesel engine introduction in cars and light trucks. Even Volkswagen, which has the largest range of diesel-powered cars and light truck offerings now on the market, may have to pull out of the market at least temporarily, as it can't say when it will be able to meet the new regulations that go into effect with the 2007 model year. It's also not clear how easy it will be to sell diesels to the "green" consumer who might be willing to pay a premium to cut down on emissions. "A lot of education has to take place," said Anthony Pratt of J.D. Power & Associates. "They're not slow and smelly... that they're actually more environmentally friendly than people might think. But our research shows that they're a tough sell to those buyers." Advocates say diesel is close to meeting the new regulations. One reason is that all major automakers already have diesel offerings they sell in Europe, where more than half of cars and light trucks already run on diesel. All those European engines need are modifications to comply with stricter U.S. environmental regulations. "We're not introducing a new technology, we're introducing a new generation of old technology," said Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum, a trade group of diesel engine manufacturers and automakers. "It's not like the hybrids, where there were none when they first started to be introduced." Weighty matters Diesels have an inherent advantage over hybrids during highway driving, when the hybrid's electric motor is essentially not in use and thus is extra weight being carried along. Diesel also has some built-in efficiency advantages for heavier vehicles, which is why it is so widely used by buses and large trucks. Therefore, they could see their greatest use in some current gas-guzzling models, such as larger SUVs and pickups, as well as in some luxury vehicles in which the extra cost could be balanced by a buyer's demands for more performance. "The fun-to-drive factor is really high," said Michelle Murad, a spokeswoman for Mercedes USA, which has found stronger-than-anticipated demand for its current diesel offering here. This fall, cleaner low-sulfur fuel will start arriving at those filling stations, holding out the promise of diesel engines that pollute less than many gasoline-powered cars do. And if bio-fuels start to spread in popularity, just about every diesel engine can run a bio-diesel. Right now, only 3 percent of cars and light trucks have diesel engines, and most of those are heavy-duty pickup trucks, such as the Ford F-250, that don't have to meet the same emission standards as smaller trucks and cars. Less than 1 percent of cars and traditional light trucks, such as the F-150, are now diesel, according to figures from the Power Information Network. Those vehicles can't be sold in five states, including California and New York, due to tougher air standards there. "We will not sell a vehicle here unless we can sell in all 50 states," said Ford spokesman Nick Twork. "Part of it is just a business equation -- it's tough to sell vehicles that are closed out to that large a segment of the market." Tougher nationwide The new regulations will essentially level the playing field nationwide. But they will be much tougher than standards now in effect in the other 45 states, essentially requiring a diesel to be as clean burning as a gasoline-powered car. Part of the problem of complying with the new regulations is that the most cost effective and fuel-efficient way to do so is by injecting urea into the engine. But an engine that runs out of urea would still operate, but would cause more pollution as it continues to run. That would violate EPA regulations requiring emission controls to last more than 100,000 miles without the vehicle owner taking any affirmative steps such as refilling missing fluids. Some diesel advocates are hoping the EPA will relax that rule, allowing car owners to refill their urea tank when they change their oil or fill up with diesel. But it's not clear EPA even has the authority to allow that to happen. Then there is the problem that has limited the spread of most fuel efficiency improvements in the U.S. automotive fleet -- the relatively low price of gasoline here. In Europe, where gasoline is taxed to bring it to more than $5 a gallon and diesel enjoys some tax advantages, there's a lot more incentive for drivers to pull up to the diesel pump. Charlie Freese, General Motors' executive director of diesel engineering, said that even if environmental regulations were identical in Europe and the United States, the difference in fuel prices would keep the use of diesel here well below the European levels. It's also why he won't make projections as to how well diesel vehicles will do in the U.S. "What's driven a lot of the penetration (in Europe) is the fuel price," he said. "My crystal ball is not that clear. If you look at them on economics, the small cars will not provide payback on diesel (at current gas prices). But there are things that diesel does that customers seem to like." From wrenchwench at blast.com Thu Feb 16 15:46:34 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Thu Feb 16 15:46:29 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] SURGE conference ! References: Message-ID: <74E3D0B4-3AAA-474A-AEEA-1432456F1FD4@blast.com> >> >> **PLEASE FORWARD TO SOUTHERN PROGRESSIVES** >> >> Friends of Peace & Justice, >> >> You are welcome to participate in the 7th annual >> SURGE conference to be held at NC Central University >> on Friday evening, Feb 24th and all-day Saturday Feb >> 25th. We have more than 160 cosponsors for this >> conference (a new record for us) and some great >> speakers lined up including Gary Grant, Lynice >> Williams, Stan Goff & many more. Now is the time to >> register (online at www.surgenetwork.org) to make sure >> that you and others in your campus and group can >> participate! So far, more than 150 registrants are >> representing over 15 campuses: including NC Central U, >> Chapel Hill High, UNC-Chapel Hill, Sandhills Community >> College, Duke University, East Chapel Hill High, >> Durham Academy, Elon University, University of >> Kentucky, UNC-Charlotte, Raleigh Charter High, and St. >> Andrews Presbyterian College. Please forward the >> notice to folks who may be interested. Pasted below >> is a conference blurb, a brief description, the >> current schedule and the list of cosponsors. >> >> Here's to an awesome event for everyone involved >> that will help develop the progressive youth movement >> in NC. While the conference is focused on students >> and campus-work, everyone is welcome to participate. >> If you want to send this notice around via email or on >> a website, feel free to cut the description of the >> conference to whatever size works for you and let us >> know if you have any questions. Keep up the great >> work :) >> >> Onwards to sustainable justice- >> Dennis Markatos-Soriano >> (919)960-6886 surgenc@yahoo.com >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> SURGE Conference 2006: Empowering a Progressive South, >> Community by Community >> NC Central University Feb 24-25, 2006 near corner of >> Lawson & Fayetteville Streets Durham, NC 27701 >> http://www.surgenetwork.org >> SURGE, Students United for a Responsible Global >> Environment, Conference 2006, cosponsored by 160+ >> progressive organizations, will be an amazing >> gathering of hundreds of progressive students from all >> over North Carolina and beyond. Our great keynote >> speaker on Friday evening (Feb 24) is Gary Grant, is a >> graduate of Central and has been devoted to racial, >> economic, and environmental justice for decades >> through leading Concerned Citizens of Tillery, NC. >> Then Saturday (Feb 25) will be full of informative >> workshop and strategy sessions on relevant issues and >> skills, networking opportunities with scores of >> nonprofits and fellow students, film showings, a great >> concert featuring hip-hop artists Cesar Comanche & >> Dasan Ahanu, and much more. Food is included in the >> low registration price, and we will even have some >> space on Durham hosts' futons, couches and floors for >> Friday evening available on a first ask & register, >> first serve basis. To register, go to our website at >> www.surgenetwork.org where you can find an updated >> description and schedule of the conference, and feel >> free to get in touch at (919)960-6886 or >> surgenc@yahoo.com >> >> ---------------------------- >> >> >> Thus far, our more than 160 amazing cosponsors >> vary from student groups such as NC State's SPARC >> (Students Protecting Animals Responsibly & >> Compassionately) to foundations such as the Z. Smith >> Reynolds Foundation to local groups such as Chapel >> Hill/Carrboro CITCA(Carolina Interfaith Taskforce >> Connecting the Americas) to businesses such as >> Carolina Green Energy. Pasted below we display the >> current schedule, list the different levels of >> cosponsorship (Awareness to Justice) along with >> posting the current ones. We hope to interact >> effectively with local, state, and regional media to >> help the conference's message of unity and cooperation >> communicate beyond the individuals that attend. Let us >> know if you have any questions, and we look forward to >> working together soon on this and other important >> projects. >> >> Last year's conference brought together 300 folks >> from more than 20 campuses. There are many ways to be >> involved in this year's weekend -- whether it is >> simply helping to publicize and mobilize folks to it, >> financially supporting the endeavor (we hope to raise >> a few hundred dollar$ more to pay for expenses), or >> helping to organize logistics for it(speakers, food, >> packets, etc.). >> >> Please register now to reserve space at this great >> gathering. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Tentative Schedule: >> >> Friday, February 24th >> >> 5pm Registration begins in the lobby of the Science >> Complex >> >> 6:30-8:30pm Welcome & Keynote address by Gary Grant, >> Executive Director of the Concerned Citizens of >> Tillery & National Black Farmers & Agricultarilists >> Association, NC, in the Science Complex Auditorium, >> Room 1111 >> >> >> Saturday, February 25th (film fest [4 great films] & >> tabling fair [20+ organizations] all day) >> [In the Science Complex] >> >> 8:30-9:25 ? Breakfast >> >> 9:30 ?11am Issue Panel Session (by Category) >> >> Environment [includes Heather DeBethizy of the >> SURGE/community bike loan project, Liz Veazey of the >> Southern Energy Network, Dave Cooper on mountain-top >> removal, Pete MacDowell of NC WARN, Ivan Urlaub of >> NCSEA, moderated by Lyra Rakusin & Alaina Rogers of >> UNC-Chapel Hill Waste Reduction & Recycling, Billie >> Karel of Agriculture Resource Center/Pesticide >> Education Project, & Hope Taylor Guevara of Clean >> Water for NC moderated by Marcus Rountree of NC >> Central's Environmental Awareness Student Effort] in >> Rooms 1111 & 1221 >> >> Human Rights [includes Natalie Fixmer of Planned >> Parenthood of Central NC, Ian Palmquist of Equality >> NC, Libby Manly of United Food & Commercial Workers >> Union, & Laxmi Haynes of Student Action with >> Farmworkers] in Room 1223 >> >> Democracy [includes Lynice Williams of NC Fair Share & >> Bob Phillips of NC Common Cause Education Fund] in >> Room 2225 >> >> Foreign Policy & Peace by Stan Goff of Military >> Families Speak Out & Bring Them Home Now, Sarah Packer >> of IPAS, Dr. Joseph Jordan - Director of the UNC-CH >> Stone Center for Black Culture & History, Dave Reed of >> the International Solidarity Movement, & Michael >> Joseph - Director of Peace Brigades International in >> Room 2221 >> >> 11:00 ? 12:15 Strategy Session I (Breakouts into >> specific campaigns you are interested in: Choices >> include Choices include same day voter registration, >> campus climate challenge, Chapel Hill bike loan >> project, ending the death penalty in NC, LGBT rights, >> peace in Iraq, improving campus recycling programs, >> sustainable agriculture, reproductive rights & family >> planning, justice at Smithfield labor rights campaign, >> campaign finance reform/lobby reform, peace & justice >> in Palestine/Israel, farmworker solidarity, preventing >> new nuclear plants in NC, forest preservation >> campaigning, retaining quality water, efficiency and >> renewables for sustainable energy, and more: Rooms >> TBA) >> >> 12:20 ? 1:00 Lunch >> >> 1:00 ? 1:55 Strategy Reportbacks >> >> 2:00 ? 3:15 Skills Sessions >> >> Puppet-Making by Donovan Zimmerman & Yon Berger of >> Paper Hand Puppet Intervention, Room 1223 >> Interacting Effectively with Elected Leaders by NC >> Senator Janet Cowell & Chapel Hill Town Councilman >> Bill Thorpe, Room 1111 >> Anti-Oppression Training by Ahmad Daniels, Room 1221 >> Resource-Raising, Room 1229 >> Working with Media by Patrick O'Neill (freelance >> journalist with The Indy and others) & Chad Johnston >> (The Peoples Channel of Chapel Hill & Orange County), >> Room 2221 >> Film & Grassroots Organizing by Molly Ramey of Working >> Films, Room 1234 >> Civil Disobedience by Steve Wolford & Lenore Yarger, >> Room 2226 >> Faith & Activism by Raleigh Catholic Workers & Alice >> Loyd of NC Climate Connection of the NC Council of >> Churches), Room 2225 >> Campus Organizing 101: Helpful Tips, Room 2229 >> >> 3:30 ? 4:45 Strategy Session II (breakouts repeated to >> develop our campaigns further) >> >> 5:00 ? 7:30 Communal Dinner & Finale >> >> 8:00 ? 10:45 Concert (with hip-hop artists Cesar >> Comanche, Dasan Ahanu, Ukulele Rapper Jon Braman, & >> others) >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> Conference Cosponsors: >> >> 1)Awareness [up to $49] Eartheal, ReCyclery, NC >> Council of Churches, Southern Energy Network, Balance >> & Accuracy in Journalism, Independent Voices, >> Southerners for Economic Justice, Earthink, NC PIRG, >> Environment NC, Chapel Hill High SURGE, UNC-Chapel >> Hill Student Environmental Action Coalition, >> UNC-Chapel Hill Carolina Environmental Student >> Alliance, Clean Energy Durham, Neighborhoods for >> Responsible Growth, Women's International League for >> Peace & Freedom, UNC-CH Gay Lesbian Bisexual >> Transgender-Straight Alliance, Haw River Assembly, NC >> State U Students Protecting Animals Responsibly and >> Compassionately, Mountainkeepers, Bagels on the Hill, >> SOA Watch, Triangle Vegetarian Society, Raleigh >> Catholic Workers, Orange County Bill of Rights Defense >> Committee, El Pueblo, Orange Global Warming Group, >> Peace Brigades International, Ninth St. Bakery, >> Western NC Workers Center, National Farmworkers >> Ministry, Center for Participatory Change, ICAHD-USA, >> Design Box Businesses, Southern Alliance for Clean >> Energy, Broad St. Cafe, Matrix Design, Climate >> Campaign, Chesepeake Climate Action Network, National >> Wildlife Federation, Global Exchange, Environmental >> Justice & Climate Change, Rainforest Action Network, >> Sierra Student Coalition, Quaker House, Institute for >> Southern Studies, American Solar Energy Society, >> Alliance to Save Energy, Foundation for a Sustainable >> Community, Durham-San Ramon Sister Communities >> Project, UNC-CH Renewable Energy Special Projects >> Committee, Association for the Advancement of >> Sustainability in Higher Education, Carolina Brewery, >> Earth Share of NC, >> >> 2)Education [$50-99] Democracy NC, NC Common Cause >> Education Fund, Student Action with Farmworkers, >> Witness for Peace, Dogwood Alliance, Agriculture >> Resource Center/Pesticide Education project, Equality >> NC, Planned Parenthood of Central NC, Carolina Farm >> Stewardship Association, Save the Earth Support >> Services, Clean Water for NC, Conservation Council of >> NC, Justice for Bhopal, People of Faith Against the >> Death Penalty, Realm Design Studio, Pullen Memorial >> Baptist Church of Raleigh - Caring for Creation, Tana >> Hartman, Public Allies, NC Audubon Society, Canary >> Coalition, The Music Loft, Sustainable Development >> International, Paper Hand Puppet Intervention, We the >> People Congress, Weaver St. Market, Traction, The >> Village Project, >> >> 3)Action [$100-249] NC Sustainable Energy Association, >> Generation Engage, NC WARN, Jones Peace & Justice >> Committee of the Community Church of Chapel Hill, >> Enpulse Energy, Larry's Beans, stone circles, Peace >> 1st, UNC-Chapel Hill Sustainability Office, IPAS, >> Durham People's Alliance, Duke University Greening >> Initiative, Working Films, Orange County Peace >> Coalition, Jews for a Just Peace - NC, NC Justice >> Center, Peace Brigades International - USA, >> >> 4)Progress [$250-499] TS Designs, Environmental >> Defense, The Forest Foundation, Clif's Bar, Southern >> Energy Management, NC Green Power, Independent Weekly, >> United Food & Commercial Workers Union, >> >> 5)Justice [$500 & up] Greensboro Justice Fund, >> Carolina Green Energy, Fund for Southern Communities, >> Z. Smith Reynolds Foundation, Strowd Roses, >> Hanley-McCall Fund of the Triangle Community >> Foundation, Chapel Hill/Carrboro CITCA (Carolina >> Interfaith Taskforce Connecting the Americas), >> Concerned Citizens of Tillery, National Black Farmers >> & Agriculturalists Association, Rockefeller Brothers >> Fund, >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> SURGE, Inc. >> Students United for a Responsible Global Environment >> www.surgenetwork.org >> (919)960-6886 > From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri Feb 17 08:28:42 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri Feb 17 08:27:56 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Virginia Biodiesel Conference - April 3, 2006 References: Message-ID: <7255B721-24BA-4E3E-86EE-9ED7D2DD5D01@blast.com> > The Center for Energy and Environmental Sustainability at James > Madison > University in cooperation with Blue Ridge Clean Fuels, Virginia Clean > Cities, Virginia Tech and Southern States Energy Board present The > 2006 > Virginia Biodiesel Conference, ?Small Scale Production and Use? to > be held > on April 3, 2006 at the James Madison University Festival > Conference and > Student Center. > > To register go to: http://www.cisat.jmu.edu/biodiesel/ > conference2006.html From wrenchwench at blast.com Tue Feb 14 11:51:42 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri Feb 17 08:28:54 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Power in Asheville References: <37689082fc80122a44d696736f306237@blast.com> Message-ID: > >> -------------- next part -------------- From wrenchwench at blast.com Fri Feb 17 10:13:42 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Fri Feb 17 10:12:55 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: [ncsca] What's the Big Idea? References: Message-ID: <702EA4C7-F93E-479B-927B-02A0A8968FD1@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > > *What's the Big Idea?* is a groundbreaking program featuring new > research in the sciences presented by the Friday Center in partnership > with Endeavors magazine and the Office of Research Development at > Carolina. > > We have partnered with the Carolina Environmental Program for our > spring > > program on Energy and the Environment. Professors Tom Meyer, Doug > Crawford-Brown, and Pete Andrews will be discussing their latest > research the first three Thursday evenings in March. On March 23rd we > will host a round table discussion moderated by Hodding Carter where > audience members have an opportunity to dine and speak informally with > our faculty and state legislators about issues pertaining to this > topic. In addition to the three speakers, panelists include: > > **Michael I. Luger, Director of the Center for Competitive > Economies and > > Professor Public Policy, Business and Planning at the Kenan > Institute of > > Private Enterprise > **David McNelis, Research Professor of Environmental Sciences and > Engineering and deputy director, Research Programs, Carolina > Environmental Center > **Jane Preyer, Public Policy Specialist, Southeast Regional Director, > Environmental Defense > **Cynthia Pollock Shea, Director, UNC Sustainability Office > **Larry Shirley, Director, State Energy Office > **Tim Toben, NC Legislative Commission on Global Climate Change > > The 3 lectures are free to the public. There is a modest $35 fee to > attend the dinner and round table discussion on March 23rd. Please be > advised that there are now only a limited number of seats available > for > this event. > > For program and registration details, please visit our website at: > http://www.fridaycenter.unc.edu/pdep/bigidea/index.htm > or contact Jill > Conrad at 919-962-2643. > > > Cindy Pollock Shea, LEED AP Megan Granda Bahr, Ph.D. > Director, Sustainability Office Continuing Education Program > Specialist > UNC Chapel Hill Professional Development and > Enrichment Chapel Hill, NC 27599-1800 The Friday > Center > Campus Box 1020 > > Chapel Hill, NC > 27599-1020 > Tel: 919-843-5251 919.843.4483 > http://sustainability.unc.edu > > > Change is inevitable. It's the resistance to change that's optional. > > > > --- You are currently subscribed to ncsca as: wrenchwench@blast.com. > To unsubscribe click here: http://lists.unc.edu/u? > idQ59728F&n=T&l=ncsca&o199534 or send a blank email to %% > email.unsub%% From wrenchwench at blast.com Mon Feb 20 09:13:51 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Mon Feb 20 09:12:59 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Re: west german garage in cary? and looking for D family car -- cheap! In-Reply-To: <20060220035452.8892.qmail@web52014.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060220035452.8892.qmail@web52014.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:52:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Alicia Adrian > Subject: west german garage in cary? and looking for D family car > -- cheap! > To: Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > CC: robert m williams > > hi, all, > > we have a 1983 MB300TD that is having vaccum issues. > > though we live in Durham just next to RTP, I drive right by West > German (between Hillsborough Rd. and Chatham) twice a week. I was > wondering if anyone has worked with these folks and has a yeah or > nay about them? > > We have had Lonnie's on the way other side of Durham (near > Hillsborough and 85) take a look at the car 6+ months ago they were > fair and friendly, but really almost at least as far away as West > German :). > > > Any recomendations for other good garages in the RTP area would be > appreciated. > > > Also, while I'm here asking.... we are in the market for another > vehicle, quickly, for me and the kids, so reliable and air > conditioning are must haves. i'd like some "stuff" space, for > instance a wagon, I'm not totally opposed to a van, but they'll > likely be out of what we can spend. > > > thanks in advance, > > Alicia Adrian > and > Rob ert Williams > > From mambrose at alumni.princeton.edu Mon Feb 20 17:59:05 2006 From: mambrose at alumni.princeton.edu (Mark J Ambrose) Date: Mon Feb 20 12:59:07 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Lecture of Interest - April 19th, 4pm Message-ID: <20060220175906.7835.fh065.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> The NCSU College of Natural Resources graduate students have organized a wonderful distinguished lecturer for this Spring. Please mark you calendars to join us on April 19 to hear Dr. Ralph Overend from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory who will speak about "Energy, Climate and the Biosphere". The graduate student reception and poster session begins at 3.00 pm and the lecture commences at 4.00 pm at the McKimmon Center. Energy, climate and the biosphere Ralph P. Overend Research Fellow National Renewable Energy Laboratory Golden, CO 80401-3393 The 21st century has started with an abrupt realization that the global energy system is stressed by supply issues, especially with respect to traditional crude oil. At the same time there is a growing awareness of the issue of climate change and the impacts of the increasing atmospheric burden of greenhouse gases, as anthropogenic contributions increase alongside the growth of the energy system. The driver is, of course, a double one ? the increasing global population and the growing per capita consumption of energy. Carbon from the biosphere is offered as one of several renewable energy and fuel contributions to address these challenges, mainly from the perspective of its carbon neutrality. Biomass is produced by solar energy fixing carbon dioxide that is in short term equilibrium with the atmosphere. However, the biosphere is itself a provider of ecosystem services affecting water and climate and is the only source of food, and feed, as well as generating a significant part of the world?s fiber and fuel. Together the current biomass fuel and human food contribution is more than 15% of the world?s primary energy supply. Can biomass sustainably meet future demands? In terms of global potentials, there is a strong case that this is feasible, and it is supported by life cycle assessments of the performance of biomass systems providing energy and fuels. Regarding the future energy system, what kind of advances and changes are needed to attain both lower fossil carbon emissions, and meet the global need for clean and sustainable energy? From helliott at knology.net Mon Feb 20 16:42:06 2006 From: helliott at knology.net (Herndon Elliott) Date: Mon Feb 20 17:42:16 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: <20060220141307.95A0EF265E@mail2.blast.com> Message-ID: <000c01c6366e$e230f6c0$6601a8c0@ds.amrdec.army.mil> What does this "surge conference" have to do with biofuels? A review of their website showed no evidence of any connection to biofuels other than a job opening post by the Piedmont coop. Most of the site appeared to be mindless liberalism and left-wing drivel. Keep this crap off the biofuels mailing list, and put in the New York Slimes Op/Ed section where it belongs. Herndon Elliott "Every dollar we spend on a want today is a dollar we won't be able to spend on a need tomorrow." --David M. Walker, Comptroller General of the United States From girlmark_list_email at localb100.com Mon Feb 20 18:17:34 2006 From: girlmark_list_email at localb100.com (girl mark) Date: Mon Feb 20 21:17:34 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel Homebrewing class this weekend, Wilmington Message-ID: <43FA783E.2000102@localb100.com> hello, i am teaching a class this weekend at Cape Fear Community College onbiodiesel homebrewing. We still have a few slots in the class. For information about the class and about registration, go to www.girlmark.com/tour2006.html thank you, Mark From marc at theforestfoundation.org Tue Feb 21 17:59:46 2006 From: marc at theforestfoundation.org (Marc Dreyfors-President) Date: Tue Feb 21 18:03:43 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: <000c01c6366e$e230f6c0$6601a8c0@ds.amrdec.army.mil> Message-ID: Ouch! Hey Herndon, SURGE does good work. It's about sustainable communities, not just about alternative fuel. Activism on a lot of fronts is needed to make a better world. One person's "mindless liberalism and left-wing drivel" is anothers' "conservative hypocracy and right-wing pandering." Open your mind! Marc The Forest Foundation -----Original Message----- From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net]On Behalf Of Herndon Elliott Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:42 PM To: biofuels_interest_group@lists.emji.net Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference What does this "surge conference" have to do with biofuels? A review of their website showed no evidence of any connection to biofuels other than a job opening post by the Piedmont coop. Most of the site appeared to be mindless liberalism and left-wing drivel. Keep this crap off the biofuels mailing list, and put in the New York Slimes Op/Ed section where it belongs. Herndon Elliott "Every dollar we spend on a want today is a dollar we won't be able to spend on a need tomorrow." --David M. Walker, Comptroller General of the United States _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From helliott at knology.net Tue Feb 21 20:21:12 2006 From: helliott at knology.net (Herndon Elliott) Date: Tue Feb 21 21:21:14 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > SURGE does good work. It's about sustainable communities, not just about > alternative fuel. Activism on a lot of fronts is needed to make a better > world. One person's "mindless liberalism and left-wing drivel" > is anothers' "conservative hypocracy and right-wing pandering." > > Open your mind! Open my mind? OK, hows about you open yours to announcements of the unrelated "good work" of the Mount Airy NRA chapter meeting and the Western Carolina Coon Hunters assn wild game dinner and the Southern Four Wheel Drive Association workday at Tellico and at Uwharrie and the Mud4Blood drive, and a whole bunch of Blue Ribbon Coalition announcements about opposition to proposed closures of public lands. None of these worthy causes (remember now: open your mind!) which are doing "good work" have anything to do with Biofuels and therefore dont belong on this mailer any more than surge conference does. List Owner, if you are paying attention, please decide if this list is for biofuels or just whatever miscellaneous subject the subscribers happen to want to distro and apply appropriate controls. Narrow-mindedly yours, Herndon Elliott KE4KUZ Madison, Al "The fundamental error is that America's security strategy relies on writing reports rather than hardening systems." -- Alan Paller, SANS Institute From steve at gogoetz.com Tue Feb 21 21:34:12 2006 From: steve at gogoetz.com (Stephen Goetz) Date: Tue Feb 21 21:36:19 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <43FBCDF5.6CC97.A32@pop.directnic.com> Anyone who is passionate about biofuels and all the connotations it carries may be interested in other realms. I enjoy the group and the discussion it promotes. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net] On Behalf Of Herndon Elliott Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:21 PM To: biofuels_interest_group@lists.emji.net Subject: RE: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference > SURGE does good work. It's about sustainable communities, not just about > alternative fuel. Activism on a lot of fronts is needed to make a better > world. One person's "mindless liberalism and left-wing drivel" > is anothers' "conservative hypocracy and right-wing pandering." > > Open your mind! Open my mind? OK, hows about you open yours to announcements of the unrelated "good work" of the Mount Airy NRA chapter meeting and the Western Carolina Coon Hunters assn wild game dinner and the Southern Four Wheel Drive Association workday at Tellico and at Uwharrie and the Mud4Blood drive, and a whole bunch of Blue Ribbon Coalition announcements about opposition to proposed closures of public lands. None of these worthy causes (remember now: open your mind!) which are doing "good work" have anything to do with Biofuels and therefore dont belong on this mailer any more than surge conference does. List Owner, if you are paying attention, please decide if this list is for biofuels or just whatever miscellaneous subject the subscribers happen to want to distro and apply appropriate controls. Narrow-mindedly yours, Herndon Elliott KE4KUZ Madison, Al "The fundamental error is that America's security strategy relies on writing reports rather than hardening systems." -- Alan Paller, SANS Institute _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From hogarth at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 21:44:29 2006 From: hogarth at gmail.com (Susan Hogarth) Date: Tue Feb 21 21:44:25 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: <43FBCDF5.6CC97.A32@pop.directnic.com> References: <43FBCDF5.6CC97.A32@pop.directnic.com> Message-ID: <3889aa560602211844t72b659b2hc5aa317100f85b2b@mail.gmail.com> On 2/21/06, Stephen Goetz wrote: > Anyone who is passionate about biofuels and all the connotations it carries > may be interested in other realms. I enjoy the group and the discussion it > promotes. Thanks. Super! Then I'm sure y'all will want to be copied on all the updates for the upcoming Libertarian Party of NC convention. Energy free = freedom = Libertarian party! What I'm saying is that I understand Herndon's point :) I, too, enjoy *discussion* promoted by biofuels-related postings - like discussion about the 'right' level of taxation of fuels or whether different fuels should have different taxes and what the implications of that might be. I don't think this list needs to be strictly technical. *However*, I also don't think it needs to be a general bulletin board for 'causes' people feel are related to biofuels in some nebulous way (such as 'This makes the world better, like biofules do'). Hey, biodiesel could make driving so much more conomical - so maybe I should start crossposting all the animal rescue requests I recieve? See the problem? ;-) My thought is that discussion which 'takes off' from the biofuels area adds interest to the list, but that crossposting of 'good causes' just *because* they are 'good causes' will dilute the list too much. But, hey, it's not my list! It's Rachel's call; that's just my opinion! -- Susan Hogarth | colliething.com NC Ballot Access Coalition http://www.ncballotaccess.org From steve at gogoetz.com Tue Feb 21 22:04:13 2006 From: steve at gogoetz.com (Stephen Goetz) Date: Tue Feb 21 22:06:28 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: <3889aa560602211844t72b659b2hc5aa317100f85b2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43FBD502.2BA70.29ED@pop.directnic.com> Touche. Well put. Onward: Can anyone direct me to a list of diesel vehicles (new) available in the US? Am I truly relegated to VW and Mercedes as the only sellers of diesel sedans? -----Original Message----- From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net] On Behalf Of Susan Hogarth Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:44 PM To: biofuels_interest_group@lists.emji.net Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference On 2/21/06, Stephen Goetz wrote: > Anyone who is passionate about biofuels and all the connotations it carries > may be interested in other realms. I enjoy the group and the discussion it > promotes. Thanks. Super! Then I'm sure y'all will want to be copied on all the updates for the upcoming Libertarian Party of NC convention. Energy free = freedom = Libertarian party! What I'm saying is that I understand Herndon's point :) I, too, enjoy *discussion* promoted by biofuels-related postings - like discussion about the 'right' level of taxation of fuels or whether different fuels should have different taxes and what the implications of that might be. I don't think this list needs to be strictly technical. *However*, I also don't think it needs to be a general bulletin board for 'causes' people feel are related to biofuels in some nebulous way (such as 'This makes the world better, like biofules do'). Hey, biodiesel could make driving so much more conomical - so maybe I should start crossposting all the animal rescue requests I recieve? See the problem? ;-) My thought is that discussion which 'takes off' from the biofuels area adds interest to the list, but that crossposting of 'good causes' just *because* they are 'good causes' will dilute the list too much. But, hey, it's not my list! It's Rachel's call; that's just my opinion! -- Susan Hogarth | colliething.com NC Ballot Access Coalition http://www.ncballotaccess.org _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From wrenchwench at blast.com Wed Feb 22 08:07:04 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Wed Feb 22 08:06:16 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: <3889aa560602211844t72b659b2hc5aa317100f85b2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <43FBCDF5.6CC97.A32@pop.directnic.com> <3889aa560602211844t72b659b2hc5aa317100f85b2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <96772482-0141-41D3-9531-77597BD3479F@blast.com> Hello folks! I posted the announcement about the Surge conference. In the past the Surge conference has hosted sessions on biofuels. This list is about biofuels. Events that have a connection to biofuels like a conference with discussions about renewable energy are acceptable. If there are more questions about what is acceptable on this list check out this link: http://biofuels.coop/join.shtml The wonderful thing about biofuels is that it can bring together people of different backgrounds and political persuasions. So let discussions continue about biofuels. Thank you for your interest. Rachel a list moderator On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Susan Hogarth wrote: > On 2/21/06, Stephen Goetz wrote: >> Anyone who is passionate about biofuels and all the connotations >> it carries >> may be interested in other realms. I enjoy the group and the >> discussion it >> promotes. Thanks. > > Super! Then I'm sure y'all will want to be copied on all the updates > for the upcoming Libertarian Party of NC convention. Energy free = > freedom = Libertarian party! > > What I'm saying is that I understand Herndon's point :) I, too, enjoy > *discussion* promoted by biofuels-related postings - like discussion > about the 'right' level of taxation of fuels or whether different > fuels should have different taxes and what the implications of that > might be. I don't think this list needs to be strictly technical. > *However*, I also don't think it needs to be a general bulletin board > for 'causes' people feel are related to biofuels in some nebulous way > (such as 'This makes the world better, like biofules do'). Hey, > biodiesel could make driving so much more conomical - so maybe I > should start crossposting all the animal rescue requests I recieve? > See the problem? ;-) > > My thought is that discussion which 'takes off' from the biofuels area > adds interest to the list, but that crossposting of 'good causes' just > *because* they are 'good causes' will dilute the list too much. > > But, hey, it's not my list! It's Rachel's call; that's just my > opinion! > > -- > Susan Hogarth | colliething.com > NC Ballot Access Coalition > http://www.ncballotaccess.org > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From wrenchwench at blast.com Wed Feb 22 08:59:17 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Wed Feb 22 08:58:17 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Wilmington Workshop References: <80212A9E-B893-46DB-8EDA-72C7447C7154@blast.com> Message-ID: <73E9BF6C-04C2-496E-957B-4C6F7D0C55E3@blast.com> Begin forwarded message: > > >> From: biofuels_interest_group-owner@lists.emji.net >> Date: February 20, 2006 8:48:28 PM EST >> To: lyle@blast.com >> Subject: Wilmington Workshop >> >> The message's content type was not explicitly allowed >> >> From: Lyle Estill >> Date: February 20, 2006 8:48:26 PM EST >> To: Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >> Subject: Wilmington Workshop >> >> >> Gang, >> >> Girl Mark's Wilmington workshop is not sold out. If anyone wants >> to jump in (and maybe grab some beach time), here are the details: >> >> Cape Fear Biofuels in Cooperation with Cape Fear Community College >> will be holding a workshop conducted by the infamous Maria "Girl >> Mark" Alovert on how to make homebrew biodiesel on Sat-Sun Feb >> 25-26 at CFCC's North Campus (click here for directions) from >> 9:30-3:30 PM both days in the Applied Technologies Building (first >> building on the left, park in the back) in the North Side of the >> Building Room NB 140. >> >> >> Lyle Estill >> Piedmont Biofuels >> www.biofuels.coop >> 919-321-8260 >> Fax: 919-321-6769 >> >> > > Lyle Estill > Piedmont Biofuels > www.biofuels.coop > 919-321-8260 > Fax: 919-321-6769 > > From leif at biofuels.coop Thu Feb 23 07:48:26 2006 From: leif at biofuels.coop (Leif Forer) Date: Thu Feb 23 07:49:02 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Tiny Microreactor For Biodiesel Production References: Message-ID: http://che.oregonstate.edu/news/story/1695 From wrenchwench at blast.com Thu Feb 23 08:09:24 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Thu Feb 23 08:08:32 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference In-Reply-To: <43FBD502.2BA70.29ED@pop.directnic.com> References: <43FBD502.2BA70.29ED@pop.directnic.com> Message-ID: Check out this link: http://biofuels.coop/vehicles.shtml On Feb 21, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Stephen Goetz wrote: > Touche. Well put. > > Onward: > Can anyone direct me to a list of diesel vehicles (new) available > in the US? > Am I truly relegated to VW and Mercedes as the only sellers of diesel > sedans? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net > [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net] On Behalf > Of Susan > Hogarth > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:44 PM > To: biofuels_interest_group@lists.emji.net > Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] RE: Surge Conference > > On 2/21/06, Stephen Goetz wrote: >> Anyone who is passionate about biofuels and all the connotations it > carries >> may be interested in other realms. I enjoy the group and the >> discussion it >> promotes. Thanks. > > Super! Then I'm sure y'all will want to be copied on all the updates > for the upcoming Libertarian Party of NC convention. Energy free = > freedom = Libertarian party! > > What I'm saying is that I understand Herndon's point :) I, too, enjoy > *discussion* promoted by biofuels-related postings - like discussion > about the 'right' level of taxation of fuels or whether different > fuels should have different taxes and what the implications of that > might be. I don't think this list needs to be strictly technical. > *However*, I also don't think it needs to be a general bulletin board > for 'causes' people feel are related to biofuels in some nebulous way > (such as 'This makes the world better, like biofules do'). Hey, > biodiesel could make driving so much more conomical - so maybe I > should start crossposting all the animal rescue requests I recieve? > See the problem? ;-) > > My thought is that discussion which 'takes off' from the biofuels area > adds interest to the list, but that crossposting of 'good causes' just > *because* they are 'good causes' will dilute the list too much. > > But, hey, it's not my list! It's Rachel's call; that's just my > opinion! > > -- > Susan Hogarth | colliething.com > NC Ballot Access Coalition > http://www.ncballotaccess.org > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From wrenchwench at blast.com Thu Feb 23 08:11:59 2006 From: wrenchwench at blast.com (Rachel Burton) Date: Thu Feb 23 08:11:04 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] $2M DOE Grant Enables Lab to Collaborate on Biodiesel R&D Message-ID: <16771860-5A82-4B2D-BF6A-B9A64BD32E1E@blast.com> Feb 21, 2006 - Renewable Energy Access To develop and strengthen B20 specifications and standards, the National Biofuel Energy Lab will open later this year as the result of a collaboration between NextEnergy, Michigan's nonprofit alternative energy accelerator, and Wayne State University (WSU). Its goal is to facilitate widespread warrant of B20 use by vehicle and engine OEMs and component suppliers. This first-of-its-kind biofuel technology development lab is made possible through a $2 million U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) grant. The lab is part of NextEnergy's Biodiesel Value Chain Initiative, an approach to researching and developing biodiesel use, including innovative agricultural methods to grow energy crops, fuel optimization and state-of-the-art biodiesel production. "This lab will provide a much-needed biodiesel knowledge base, forming a solid technical foundation for the development of future fuels of this type," said James Croce, NextEnergy CEO. In addition to NextEnergy and Wayne State University, several partners will be involved in contributing to the National Biofuel Energy Lab, including DaimlerChrysler (engines used for research); Biodiesel Industries (will aid in the production and development of biodiesel fuel); Delphi (will provide emission management technology and fuel injectors); Robert Bosch Corp.; and U.S. Army Tank and Automotive Research, Development and Engineering Center (TARDEC), the nation's laboratory for advanced military automotive technology. From john.bonitz at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 11:41:26 2006 From: john.bonitz at gmail.com (John Bonitz) Date: Thu Feb 23 17:47:06 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Investors Persuade Four Electric Power Companies to Disclose Climate Risks In-Reply-To: <2B77C7A5-2E80-460D-B7DA-B63B2140CFC7@ceres.org> References: <2B77C7A5-2E80-460D-B7DA-B63B2140CFC7@ceres.org> Message-ID: <84a57a420602230841m2d9b2c60x7cdbe0835385521c@mail.gmail.com> Not specifically related to biofuels, but certainly relevant to energy issues impacting biofuels demand. Also, I thought the originating organization might be of interest to this broad audience. CERES is a cool organization, by the way. If you're not aware of it, you might want to check it out. "Investors and Environmentalists for Sustainable Prosperity." http://www.ceres.org/ Cheers! John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chris Fox Date: Feb 21, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: Investors Persuade Four Electric Power Companies to Disclose Climate Risks To: Climate Change Info Mailing List Ceres Press Release Contact: Peyton Fleming, Ceres, 617-247-0700 x20 and 617-733-6660 (cell) For Immediate Release: February 21, 2006 Investors Persuade Four Power Companies to Disclose Climate Risks Companies Among Nearly 100 U.S. Businesses Receiving Global Warming Resolutions and Disclosure Requests from Concerned Investors BOSTON ? In response to shareholder requests, four U.S. electric power companies in Missouri and Wisconsin have joined other utility companies by agreeing to assess and disclose the potential impacts from foreseeable regulations to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. Investors persuaded Great Plains Energy Inc. in Kansas City, MO, Alliant Energy in Madison, WI, WPS Resources in Green Bay, WI and MGE Energy in Madison, WI to disclose how they are preparing for future GHG-reducing regulatory scenarios, including potential impacts on existing and proposed power plants. All four companies have proposed to build new pulverized coal-fired power plants that could be especially vulnerable to greenhouse gas emission limits on power plants. Investors requested the climate risk reports through shareholder resolutions filed with the companies last fall. While those resolutions were withdrawn earlier this month, similar requests have been filed and are still pending with Dominion Resources in Richmond, VA and Peabody Energy in St. Louis, MI. Peabody Energy has also announced plans to build new pulverized coal-fired power plants in the coming years. The companies are among more than two-dozen U.S. businesses ? including seven electric power companies, four oil and gas companies, six real estate firms, four big-box retailers, two insurance companies, two banks and one auto company ? with whom investors filed global warming shareholder resolutions as part of the 2006 proxy season. The resolutions are part of growing effort by leading U.S. investors seeking more disclosure and action from U.S. companies on the risks and opportunities they face from climate change. The investors include many of the nation's largest city, state and private pension funds, as well as labor, foundation, religious and other institutional investors. Many of the investors are part of the $3 trillion Investor Network on Climate Risk, an alliance of more than 50 institutional investors directed by Ceres. In addition to filing more than 30 resolutions, investors have sent letters to the nation's 30 largest insurance companies and 43 largest electric power companies, requesting that the companies provide climate disclosure reports this year, including plans for reducing their exposure from regulatory changes, physical changes and other climate-related impacts. Investors have also been pressing bond rating agencies and major Wall Street investment firms to include climate risk analysis in their investment ratings, especially for power sector investments. "More investors than ever before are recognizing that climate change is a serious business issue and are demanding answers from companies on their strategies for dealing with it," said Mindy S. Lubber, president of Ceres, an investor coalition that helped coordinate the shareholder resolution filings and investor letters. "Investors are particularly concerned about the long-term financial viability of coal-burning power plants if regulations limiting carbon emissions are adopted," said Leslie Lowe, program director of the Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility (ICCR), a group of over 200 religious investment funds, many of which are actively involved in filing global warming shareholder resolutions. "Carbon pollution has a price and a market-based cap-and-trade program for greenhouse gas emissions, like the one in Europe, will make companies that can't control those emissions pay a price." In just the past two years, more than a dozen U.S. electric power companies have published or agreed to publish climate risk reports at the request of shareholders. Investors pushing for increased disclosure include New York City Comptroller William S. Thompson, whose office manages $95 billion in assets in the New York City retirement funds. Thompson's office filed six of the seven resolutions with electric power companies this year, including the four that his office recently withdrew from Alliant Energy, Great Plains Energy, WPS Resources and MGE Energy. "These four power companies deserve credit for assessing these financial risks for shareholders, and more companies should be doing the same without investors having to file resolutions," Thompson said. "Given the growing support for carbon limits in the U.S., I'm especially concerned about the long-term implications of investing in new coal-fired power plants that will be burdened with these extra carbon costs for 30 to 40 years." The power industry is proposing to build more than 100 new coal-fired power plants in the coming years ? investments that could be substantially affected when greenhouse gas regulations are adopted in states and across the U.S. as is widely expected. Late last year, seven governors in the Northeast approved a market-based accord to reduce GHG emissions from regional power plants, beginning in 2009. Other states, including California, Colorado and Utah, now expect power companies to factor carbon emission costs ? as high as $15 a ton ? into their proposals for new power plants. This year's filings come on the heels of record-high voting support for global warming resolutions in the 2004 and 2005 proxy seasons. Investors achieved 28 percent voting support on a resolution with ExxonMobil in 2005 ? the highest support level on a climate-related resolution at the company. One or more resolutions have been filed with each of the following US companies: Auto sector: General Motors Corp. (NYSE: GM) Oil and gas sector: Devon Energy (NYSE: DVN), ExxonMobil Corp. (NYSE: XOM), Ultra Petroleum (NYSE: UPL), Vintage Petroleum (NYSE: VPI) Financial Services sector: Wachovia (NYSE: WB), Wells Fargo & Co. (NYSE: WFC) Insurance sector: Chubb Corp. (NYSE: CB), Marsh & McLennan Cos. (NYSE: MMC) Real Estate sector: D.R. Horton Inc. (NYSE: DHI), Liberty Property Trust (NYSE: LRY), Centex Homes (NYSE: CTX), Ryland (omitted due to SEC decision), Simon Property Group* (NYSE: SPG), Standard Pacific (NYSE: SPF) Big Box Retailers: Home Depot* (NYSE: HD), Bed, Bath and Beyond (NYSE: BBBY), Whole Foods (NYSE: WFMI) and Lowe's* (NYSE: LOW) Electric Power sector: Alliant Energy* (NYSE: LNT), Dominion Resources (NYSE: D), Great Plains Energy* (NYSE: GXP), MGE Energy* (NYSE: MGEE), Peabody Energy (NYSE: BTU), Sempra Energy (omitted due to SEC decision), WPS Resources* (NYSE: WPS). * withdrawn after investors negotiated new company commitments You are currently subscribed to climate-l as: john.bonitz@gmail.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-431933-223839Y@lists.iisd.ca - Subscribe to IISD Reporting Services' free newsletters and lists for environment and sustainable development policy professionals at http://www.iisd.ca/email/subscribe.htm -- John Bonitz Silk Hope, NC From john.bonitz at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 11:52:55 2006 From: john.bonitz at gmail.com (John Bonitz) Date: Thu Feb 23 17:52:58 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] the reason for the SURGE conf post Message-ID: <84a57a420602230852v62b5b88cx36cbd16cf4e70a2b@mail.gmail.com> As I see it, I'd like to see posts from any organization that promotes awareness of the merits of biofuels, and encourages their expanded use and production. When the NC Libertarian Party introduces an official party plank for biofuels promotion, I'd love to read about that here. When the Southern Four Wheel Drive Association adopts a policy encouraging purchase of diesel 'gators,' I'd love to hear about it. When the Mount Airy NRA Chapter hosts a speaker on the national security benefits of biofuels, I'd love to attend. SURGE promotes biofuels. Nuff said. -- John Bonitz Silk Hope, NC From skepticbill at mac.com Thu Feb 23 21:57:56 2006 From: skepticbill at mac.com (Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)) Date: Thu Feb 23 21:57:33 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....and biodiesel In-Reply-To: <84a57a420602230841m2d9b2c60x7cdbe0835385521c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A follow up to an earlier post I made about using algae to help mitigate CO2 emissions. While I have a certain anxiety about using genetically engineered organisms to make hydrogen I have huge concerns about climate change. I think we are fast reaching the point where we're going to have to try some radical things to pull our fat from the fire. Here's the article from Wired: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70273-0.html Mutant Algae Is Hydrogen Factory By Sam Jaffe 12:00 PM Feb, 23, 2006 Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley have engineered a strain of pond scum that could, with further refinements, produce vast amounts of hydrogen through photosynthesis. The work, led by plant physiologist Tasios Melis, is so far unpublished. But if it proves correct, it would mean a major breakthrough in using algae as an industrial factory, not only for hydrogen, but for a wide range of products, from biodiesel to cosmetics. The new strain of algae, known as C. reinhardtii, has truncated chlorophyll antennae within the chloroplasts of the cells, which serves to increase the organism's energy efficiency. In addition, it makes the algae a lighter shade of green, which in turn allows more sunlight deeper into an algal culture and therefore allows more cells to photosynthesize. "An increase in solar conversion efficiency to 10 percent ... is thought to be enough to make the mass culture of algae viable," says Juergen Polle, a former student of Melis? who now does research on algae at the City University of New York, Brooklyn. Polle points out that Melis has probably already reached that 10 percent threshold. But further refinements are still required before C. reinhardtii farms would be efficient enough to produce the world?s hydrogen, which is Melis? eventual goal. Currently, the algae cells cycle between photosynthesis and hydrogen production because the hydrogenase enzyme which makes the hydrogen can?t function in the presence of oxygen. Researchers hope to achieve that goal using genetic engineering to close up pores that oxygen seeps through. Melis got involved in this research when he and Michael Seibert, a scientist at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado, figured out how to get hydrogen out of green algae by restricting sulfur from their diet. The plant cells flicked a long-dormant genetic switch to produce hydrogen instead of carbon dioxide. But the quantities of hydrogen they produced were nowhere near enough to scale up the process commercially and profitably. "When we discovered the sulfur switch, we increased hydrogen production by a factor of 100,000," says Seibert. "But to make it a commercial technology, we still had to increase the efficiency of the process by another factor of 100." Melis? truncated antennae mutants are a big step in that direction. Now Seibert and others (including James Lee at Oak Ridge National Laboratories and J. Craig Venter at the Venter Institute in Rockville, Maryland) are trying to adjust the hydrogen-producing pathway so that it can produce hydrogen 100 percent of the time. A bigger challenge, and one that?s further down the road to solving, is improving the efficiency of the hydrogenase itself. "Right now the electron chain that goes into the system should produce a lot more hydrogen than comes out, and we don?t know what?s causing the bottleneck," says Seibert. "More basic research is needed to better understand exactly what?s happening in there." Seibert also points out that there are plenty of naturally occurring hydrogenases in microbes, most of which haven?t been studied and some of which might be much more efficient than the one used by C. reinhardtii. Whether or not scientists can find solutions for those two problems will have a lot to do with realizing the vision of a hydrogen-powered economy based on algae farms in desert areas. But algae can do a lot more than produce hydrogen. They are already used widely in the cosmetics industry to produce key chemicals used in make-up and perfume. And pharmaceutical companies have long viewed algae as a potential way to produce drugs in a cheap and environmentally friendly manner. Some algae are also viewed as an ideal source for biodiesel because they can produce oils at a much higher rate than other plants (which can then be converted into vehicle fuel without adding any carbon dioxide to the environment). For all these applications, Melis? antenna-truncated algae should be a major breakthrough, allowing higher rates of production and thus making the end product more cheaply. From oakleaf1 at charter.net Thu Feb 23 22:05:37 2006 From: oakleaf1 at charter.net (Randy C Almendinger) Date: Thu Feb 23 22:05:46 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....and biodiesel References: Message-ID: <000b01c638ef$2fef50f0$6401a8c0@RANDY> Not trying to spark another tangent, but I've remember reading some artricles that scientists have determined that our 'global warming' is not human produced, but rather a normal cyclic event. If that is the case, then try as we might to reduce emmissions, etc [which we certain should], then it seems to me that the global warming will occur anyway. Just my opionion. Randy C Almendinger FairTax Supporter Just say NO... to federal income tax!! Research the FairTax at: http://ashevillefairtax.blogspot.com/ http://fairtax.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)" To: "BIG" ; "Frank Casadonte" ; "Katy Ansardi" ; "Alan Britt" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....and biodiesel A follow up to an earlier post I made about using algae to help mitigate CO2 emissions. While I have a certain anxiety about using genetically engineered organisms to make hydrogen I have huge concerns about climate change. I think we are fast reaching the point where we're going to have to try some radical things to pull our fat from the fire. Here's the article from Wired: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70273-0.html Mutant Algae Is Hydrogen Factory By Sam Jaffe 12:00 PM Feb, 23, 2006 Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley have engineered a strain of pond scum that could, with further refinements, produce vast amounts of hydrogen through photosynthesis. The work, led by plant physiologist Tasios Melis, is so far unpublished. But if it proves correct, it would mean a major breakthrough in using algae as an industrial factory, not only for hydrogen, but for a wide range of products, from biodiesel to cosmetics. The new strain of algae, known as C. reinhardtii, has truncated chlorophyll antennae within the chloroplasts of the cells, which serves to increase the organism's energy efficiency. In addition, it makes the algae a lighter shade of green, which in turn allows more sunlight deeper into an algal culture and therefore allows more cells to photosynthesize. "An increase in solar conversion efficiency to 10 percent ... is thought to be enough to make the mass culture of algae viable," says Juergen Polle, a former student of Melis? who now does research on algae at the City University of New York, Brooklyn. Polle points out that Melis has probably already reached that 10 percent threshold. But further refinements are still required before C. reinhardtii farms would be efficient enough to produce the world?s hydrogen, which is Melis? eventual goal. Currently, the algae cells cycle between photosynthesis and hydrogen production because the hydrogenase enzyme which makes the hydrogen can?t function in the presence of oxygen. Researchers hope to achieve that goal using genetic engineering to close up pores that oxygen seeps through. Melis got involved in this research when he and Michael Seibert, a scientist at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado, figured out how to get hydrogen out of green algae by restricting sulfur from their diet. The plant cells flicked a long-dormant genetic switch to produce hydrogen instead of carbon dioxide. But the quantities of hydrogen they produced were nowhere near enough to scale up the process commercially and profitably. "When we discovered the sulfur switch, we increased hydrogen production by a factor of 100,000," says Seibert. "But to make it a commercial technology, we still had to increase the efficiency of the process by another factor of 100." Melis? truncated antennae mutants are a big step in that direction. Now Seibert and others (including James Lee at Oak Ridge National Laboratories and J. Craig Venter at the Venter Institute in Rockville, Maryland) are trying to adjust the hydrogen-producing pathway so that it can produce hydrogen 100 percent of the time. A bigger challenge, and one that?s further down the road to solving, is improving the efficiency of the hydrogenase itself. "Right now the electron chain that goes into the system should produce a lot more hydrogen than comes out, and we don?t know what?s causing the bottleneck," says Seibert. "More basic research is needed to better understand exactly what?s happening in there." Seibert also points out that there are plenty of naturally occurring hydrogenases in microbes, most of which haven?t been studied and some of which might be much more efficient than the one used by C. reinhardtii. Whether or not scientists can find solutions for those two problems will have a lot to do with realizing the vision of a hydrogen-powered economy based on algae farms in desert areas. But algae can do a lot more than produce hydrogen. They are already used widely in the cosmetics industry to produce key chemicals used in make-up and perfume. And pharmaceutical companies have long viewed algae as a potential way to produce drugs in a cheap and environmentally friendly manner. Some algae are also viewed as an ideal source for biodiesel because they can produce oils at a much higher rate than other plants (which can then be converted into vehicle fuel without adding any carbon dioxide to the environment). For all these applications, Melis? antenna-truncated algae should be a major breakthrough, allowing higher rates of production and thus making the end product more cheaply. _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From wooster at coastalnet.com Fri Feb 24 08:25:34 2006 From: wooster at coastalnet.com (BENJAMIN F BARNES) Date: Fri Feb 24 08:25:39 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....andbiodiesel Message-ID: <410-220062524132534500@coastalnet.com> That arguement has made many times and might possibly have some validity. I have also heard that the earth was undergoing a slight cooling until almost exactly when the industrial revolution started, then there began the time of warming. It would be interesting to know who these scientist who claim the the current warming period work for Ben Barnes > [Original Message] > From: Randy C Almendinger > To: Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac) ; BIG ; Frank Casadonte ; Katy Ansardi ; Alan Britt > Date: 2/23/2006 10:05:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....andbiodiesel > > Not trying to spark another tangent, but I've remember reading some > artricles that scientists have determined that our 'global warming' is not > human produced, but rather a normal cyclic event. If that is the case, then > try as we might to reduce emmissions, etc [which we certain should], then it > seems to me that the global warming will occur anyway. > > Just my opionion. > > > Randy C Almendinger > FairTax Supporter > > Just say NO... > to federal income tax!! > Research the FairTax at: > http://ashevillefairtax.blogspot.com/ > http://fairtax.org/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)" > To: "BIG" ; "Frank Casadonte" > ; "Katy Ansardi" ; "Alan > Britt" > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:57 PM > Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....and biodiesel > > > A follow up to an earlier post I made about using algae to help mitigate CO2 > emissions. While I have a certain anxiety about using genetically engineered > organisms to make hydrogen I have huge concerns about climate change. I > think we are fast reaching the point where we're going to have to try some > radical things to pull our fat from the fire. > > Here's the article from Wired: > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70273-0.html > > Mutant Algae Is Hydrogen Factory > By Sam Jaffe > 12:00 PM Feb, 23, 2006 > > Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley have engineered a > strain of pond scum that could, with further refinements, produce vast > amounts of hydrogen through photosynthesis. > > The work, led by plant physiologist Tasios Melis, is so far unpublished. But > if it proves correct, it would mean a major breakthrough in using algae as > an industrial factory, not only for hydrogen, but for a wide range of > products, from biodiesel to cosmetics. > > The new strain of algae, known as C. reinhardtii, has truncated chlorophyll > antennae within the chloroplasts of the cells, which serves to increase the > organism's energy efficiency. In addition, it makes the algae a lighter > shade of green, which in turn allows more sunlight deeper into an algal > culture and therefore allows more cells to photosynthesize. > > "An increase in solar conversion efficiency to 10 percent ... is thought to > be enough to make the mass culture of algae viable," says Juergen Polle, a > former student of Melisı who now does research on algae at the City > University of New York, Brooklyn. > > Polle points out that Melis has probably already reached that 10 percent > threshold. But further refinements are still required before C. reinhardtii > farms would be efficient enough to produce the worldıs hydrogen, which is > Melisı eventual goal. > > Currently, the algae cells cycle between photosynthesis and hydrogen > production because the hydrogenase enzyme which makes the hydrogen canıt > function in the presence of oxygen. Researchers hope to achieve that goal > using genetic engineering to close up pores that oxygen seeps through. > > Melis got involved in this research when he and Michael Seibert, a scientist > at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado, figured out > how to get hydrogen out of green algae by restricting sulfur from their > diet. The plant cells flicked a long-dormant genetic switch to produce > hydrogen instead of carbon dioxide. But the quantities of hydrogen they > produced were nowhere near enough to scale up the process commercially and > profitably. > > "When we discovered the sulfur switch, we increased hydrogen production by a > factor of 100,000," says Seibert. "But to make it a commercial technology, > we still had to increase the efficiency of the process by another factor of > 100." > > Melisı truncated antennae mutants are a big step in that direction. Now > Seibert and others (including James Lee at Oak Ridge National Laboratories > and J. Craig Venter at the Venter Institute in Rockville, Maryland) are > trying to adjust the hydrogen-producing pathway so that it can produce > hydrogen 100 percent of the time. > > A bigger challenge, and one thatıs further down the road to solving, is > improving the efficiency of the hydrogenase itself. > > "Right now the electron chain that goes into the system should produce a lot > more hydrogen than comes out, and we donıt know whatıs causing the > bottleneck," says Seibert. "More basic research is needed to better > understand exactly whatıs happening in there." Seibert also points out that > there are plenty of naturally occurring hydrogenases in microbes, most of > which havenıt been studied and some of which might be much more efficient > than the one used by C. reinhardtii. > > Whether or not scientists can find solutions for those two problems will > have a lot to do with realizing the vision of a hydrogen-powered economy > based on algae farms in desert areas. > > But algae can do a lot more than produce hydrogen. They are already used > widely in the cosmetics industry to produce key chemicals used in make-up > and perfume. And pharmaceutical companies have long viewed algae as a > potential way to produce drugs in a cheap and environmentally friendly > manner. > > Some algae are also viewed as an ideal source for biodiesel because they can > produce oils at a much higher rate than other plants (which can then be > converted into vehicle fuel without adding any carbon dioxide to the > environment). > > For all these applications, Melisı antenna-truncated algae should be a major > breakthrough, allowing higher rates of production and thus making the end > product more cheaply. > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From jcbaron at verizon.net Fri Feb 24 07:30:29 2006 From: jcbaron at verizon.net (Jim Baron) Date: Fri Feb 24 08:30:32 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....and biodiesel Message-ID: <2106708.1140787829613.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Randy C Almendinger >Date: Thu Feb 23 21:05:37 CST 2006 >To: "Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)" , BIG , Frank Casadonte , Katy Ansardi , Alan Britt >Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....and biodiesel >Not trying to spark another tangent, but I've remember reading some >artricles that scientists have determined that our 'global warming' is not >human produced, but rather a normal cyclic event. If that is the case, then >try as we might to reduce emmissions, etc [which we certain should], then it >seems to me that the global warming will occur anyway. > >Just my opionion. > > >Randy C Almendinger >FairTax Supporter > Back in the days 40 years ago when everyone who wrote anything about the subject thought that human beings were about to cause a new ice age by their clogging of the atmosphere with sun-reflective particulate matter, I began to follow the developments of climatological/archaeological research on the great cultures of the Mediterranean Basin. It is clear that Athens and Rome both peaked as cultures during "hot" periods and began their declines under pressure from northern invaders during "cold" periods, but a clear cause and effect relationship has never been established, in spite of a few jokes about fears of fur-clad Canadian "barbarians" besieging NYC in the next cold period (no, I'm not talking about winter in Florida or Texas, like my 87 year old Minnesota in-laws do). It does seem likely that human behavior is capable of interfering with the natural cycles; only the relative extent of human impact vs. natural cycles is not really confirmed. Jim Baron Senex From skepticbill at mac.com Fri Feb 24 09:16:27 2006 From: skepticbill at mac.com (Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)) Date: Fri Feb 24 09:16:05 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create hydrogen....and biodiesel In-Reply-To: <2106708.1140787829613.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Bringing this back to biodiesel. It reduces the amount of CO2 my car dumps into the atmosphere. It also has the potential to create jobs in this country and to stop exporting our dollars to countries hostile to us. As for the science behind global warming/climate cahnge you'd be hard pressed to find a credible scientist who doubts that it is happening. I have no doubt that there are natural cycles but if you look at a graph of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere and the rise in global average temperature you can't miss the correlation. Many of the folks that are downplaying the importance of the human contribution to climate change receive funding from (surprise!) the oil and gas industry. They are using the age old strategy of introducing doubt then slowly trying to shift public discourse. And yet big re-insurance companies like Swiss Re are starting to align themselves with groups associated with green and renewable energy. Hmmmm, could it be the "animal spirits" of the market at work? My position is simple, biodiesel and renewable energy are cleaner than fossil fuels and can be domestically produced. Combine the localization of energy production with increasing conservation and you get large national security benefits. In an increasingly chaotic world self-sufficiency is the prudent course. And I reduce my carbon footprint! Biodiesel, "it's all good"! ;-) -Bill- On 2/24/06 8:30 AM, "Jim Baron" wrote: >> From: Randy C Almendinger >> Date: Thu Feb 23 21:05:37 CST 2006 >> To: "Bill O'Luanaigh (.mac)" , > BIG , > Frank Casadonte , > Katy Ansardi , Alan Britt >> Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Algae to create >> hydrogen....and biodiesel > >> Not trying to spark another tangent, but I've remember reading some >> artricles that scientists have determined that our 'global warming' is not >> human produced, but rather a normal cyclic event. If that is the case, then >> try as we might to reduce emmissions, etc [which we certain should], then it >> seems to me that the global warming will occur anyway. >> >> Just my opionion. >> >> >> Randy C Almendinger >> FairTax Supporter >> > > Back in the days 40 years ago when everyone who wrote anything about the > subject thought that human beings were about to cause a new ice age by their > clogging of the atmosphere with sun-reflective particulate matter, I began to > follow the developments of climatological/archaeological research on the great > cultures of the Mediterranean Basin. It is clear that Athens and Rome both > peaked as cultures during "hot" periods and began their declines under > pressure from northern invaders during "cold" periods, but a clear cause and > effect relationship has never been established, in spite of a few jokes about > fears of fur-clad Canadian "barbarians" besieging NYC in the next cold period > (no, I'm not talking about winter in Florida or Texas, like my 87 year old > Minnesota in-laws do). It does seem likely that human behavior is capable of > interfering with the natural cycles; only the relative extent of human impact > vs. natural cycles is not really confirmed. > > Jim Baron > Senex > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > From wooster at coastalnet.com Sun Feb 26 22:54:25 2006 From: wooster at coastalnet.com (BENJAMIN F BARNES) Date: Sun Feb 26 22:54:27 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Re: west german garage in cary? and looking for D family car -- cheap! Message-ID: <410-22006212735425656@coastalnet.com> I heard recently about a company Diesel Secret that claims to have a process where you can take oils such as olive, canola, peanut etc filter it add their proprietary ingrediant and make fuel supposedly without the drawbacks of biodiesel. Does anyone have any kowledge about this. I is supposedly much cheaper and easier that getting started with biodiesel and easier to make Ben Barnes From mambrose at alumni.princeton.edu Mon Feb 27 08:21:20 2006 From: mambrose at alumni.princeton.edu (Mark J Ambrose) Date: Mon Feb 27 11:21:24 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel on Car Talk - Click & Clack give a Bogus Answer Message-ID: <20060227162120.7427.fh049.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> Did anyone else hear Car Talk this weekend? Tom & Ray took a call from a guy whose wife wanted to buy a new car if she could run it on biodiesel. Tom & Ray advised him against it because of the extensive modifications to the car required to run it on biodiesel. Of course they were confusing biodiesel with SVO. They also suggested that he wait and get a flexible fuel vehicle to run on ethanol because "we can grow crops to make the ethanol," totally oblivious to the fact that we can grow crops to make the biodiesel. I think we should flood them with letters and emails telling them how wrong their answer was. Maybe they will read one of them on the air. At the very least, they will get it right the next time they get a question like that. If you didn't hear the show, you can listen to it on the web. Go to: http://cartalk.com/Radio/Show/online.html and select Segment 10, the last segment of the show. BTW, I have been trying to email them, but have been having problems with sending a msg via their website, so I am now resorting to snail mail. -- Mark From mambrose at alumni.princeton.edu Mon Feb 27 08:29:01 2006 From: mambrose at alumni.princeton.edu (Mark J Ambrose) Date: Mon Feb 27 11:29:02 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel on Car Talk - Click & Clack give a Bogus Answer Message-ID: <20060227162902.8784.fh049.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> I also just noticed that a bunch of folks have already posted responses to their biodiesel answer on the Car Talk bulletin board. That is good, but I tnk folks should also be writing/emailing directly. Hopefully they will get the message. -- Mark From llapham at unc.edu Mon Feb 27 11:35:38 2006 From: llapham at unc.edu (Laura) Date: Mon Feb 27 11:36:05 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel on Car Talk - Click & Clack give a Bogus Answer In-Reply-To: <20060227162120.7427.fh049.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> References: <20060227162120.7427.fh049.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> Message-ID: <44032A5A.7070906@unc.edu> Yes, I was just as astounded to hear car talk's response to that call. Something should be done, they definitely painted biodiesel in a negative light. Thanks for addressing this!! Laura Mark J Ambrose wrote: >Did anyone else hear Car Talk this weekend? > >Tom & Ray took a call from a guy whose wife wanted to >buy a new car if she could run it on biodiesel. Tom & >Ray advised him against it because of the extensive >modifications to the car required to run it on >biodiesel. Of course they were confusing biodiesel >with SVO. > >They also suggested that he wait and get a flexible >fuel vehicle to run on ethanol because "we can grow >crops to make the ethanol," totally oblivious to the >fact that we can grow crops to make the biodiesel. > >I think we should flood them with letters and emails >telling them how wrong their answer was. Maybe they >will read one of them on the air. At the very least, >they will get it right the next time they get a >question like that. > >If you didn't hear the show, you can listen to it on >the web. Go to: > >http://cartalk.com/Radio/Show/online.html > >and select Segment 10, the last segment of the show. > >BTW, I have been trying to email them, but have been >having problems with sending a msg via their website, >so I am now resorting to snail mail. > >-- Mark >_______________________________________________ >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list >Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net >http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > From aibodkin at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 12:01:12 2006 From: aibodkin at gmail.com (A Bodkin) Date: Mon Feb 27 12:01:15 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel on Car Talk - Click & Clack give a Bogus Answer In-Reply-To: <44032A5A.7070906@unc.edu> References: <20060227162120.7427.fh049.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> <44032A5A.7070906@unc.edu> Message-ID: "..Something should be done, they definitely painted biodiesel in a negative light..." Do they still burn witches up there? in passing, I think these guys might be snake oil salesmen, for your review, "..DSE has developed a revolutionary method for producing an inexpensive, high performance fuel that can power ANY DIESEL ENGINE and the cost to you is only 46? per gallon! You have NOT heard of this before. This is an entirely new way in America to make your own fuel from vegetable oil that takes only minutes..." http://www.dieselsecret.com/?engine=adwords!5051&keyword=%28homemade+biodiesel%29&match_type=content ~A On 2/27/06, Laura wrote: > Yes, I was just as astounded to hear car talk's response to that call. > Something should be done, they definitely painted biodiesel in a > negative light. Thanks for addressing this!! Laura > > Mark J Ambrose wrote: > > >Did anyone else hear Car Talk this weekend? > > > >Tom & Ray took a call from a guy whose wife wanted to > >buy a new car if she could run it on biodiesel. Tom & > >Ray advised him against it because of the extensive > >modifications to the car required to run it on > >biodiesel. Of course they were confusing biodiesel > >with SVO. > > > >They also suggested that he wait and get a flexible > >fuel vehicle to run on ethanol because "we can grow > >crops to make the ethanol," totally oblivious to the > >fact that we can grow crops to make the biodiesel. > > > >I think we should flood them with letters and emails > >telling them how wrong their answer was. Maybe they > >will read one of them on the air. At the very least, > >they will get it right the next time they get a > >question like that. > > > >If you didn't hear the show, you can listen to it on > >the web. Go to: > > > >http://cartalk.com/Radio/Show/online.html > > > >and select Segment 10, the last segment of the show. > > > >BTW, I have been trying to email them, but have been > >having problems with sending a msg via their website, > >so I am now resorting to snail mail. > > > >-- Mark > >_______________________________________________ > >Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > >Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > >http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > From sarah at sustainableharvest.org Mon Feb 27 12:36:39 2006 From: sarah at sustainableharvest.org (Sarah Kennedy) Date: Mon Feb 27 12:36:42 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Biodiesel on Car Talk - Click & Clack give a Bogus Answer In-Reply-To: <20060227162902.8784.fh049.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> References: <20060227162902.8784.fh049.wm@smtp.sc0.cp.net> Message-ID: <7a1291b60602270936v472577bcye483584d656567b7@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mark, Thanks for posting this here. My husband and I are huge fans of Click and Clack and we were shocked by the bad information they gave on biodiesel this past weekend. We sent an email in to them right away and encourage the rest of you to do the same. Best regards, -- Sarah Kennedy Sustainable Harvest International www.sustainableharvest.org On 2/27/06, Mark J Ambrose wrote: > I also just noticed that a bunch of folks have already > posted responses to their biodiesel answer on the Car > Talk bulletin board. That is good, but I tnk folks > should also be writing/emailing directly. Hopefully > they will get the message. > > -- Mark > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > From aibodkin at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 10:07:05 2006 From: aibodkin at gmail.com (A Bodkin) Date: Tue Feb 28 10:07:05 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] hydraulics and bio...? Message-ID: Imagine hydraulics and bio in the new F-250's, for your review... http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/hydraulichybrid.html Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius 2.13.06 ---Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely competitive full size pickup market. ---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come close to Hydraulic Energy Storage. ---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg city rating, that's an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline version. ---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for Ford to come through in the clutch. Funny we have to buy bigger vehicles to conserve energy... ~A From mackin at email.unc.edu Tue Feb 28 10:34:33 2006 From: mackin at email.unc.edu (William Mackin) Date: Tue Feb 28 10:35:03 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] hydraulics and bio...? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This sounds like propaganda from someone trying to make money on options?? On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:07 AM, A Bodkin wrote: > Imagine hydraulics and bio in the new F-250's, for your review... > > http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/hydraulichybrid.html > > Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius > 2.13.06 > > > ---Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the > implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic > Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion > engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. > New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply > amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely > competitive full size pickup market. > > ---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the > cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that > move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, > only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic > cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact > that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient > way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the > efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come > close to Hydraulic Energy Storage. > > ---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is > 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 > with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg > city rating, that's an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline > version. > > ---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology > because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this > system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of > numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The > Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, > can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for > Ford to come through in the clutch. > > > Funny we have to buy bigger vehicles to conserve energy... > > ~A > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From aibodkin at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 11:27:19 2006 From: aibodkin at gmail.com (A Bodkin) Date: Tue Feb 28 11:27:18 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] hydraulics and bio...? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I could go on all day with rancid remarks about the "big oil" influence on new technology... for instance, contributions to *environmental* causes that restrict or prevent more fuel efficient vehicles...perhaps the only thing limiting this Honda Accord in US markets... Diesel Accord sets world speed records [ See related stories ] May 7, 2004 "..The Honda Accord 2.2 i-CTDi Sport has set 19 world speed records in its class in a weekend of high-intensity driving ? and then went on to achieve fuel economy of 3.07 litres/100km fuel economy.." http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=819&fArticleId=2002876 yea that is an incredible 90+ miles per gallon...but after catalytic converters and other non essential (for diesels) add on's are factored in it will bring fuel MPG's down to less than half... Government helping industry EPA turns innovator with hydraulic hybrids Carmakers would get edge in mpg race "..ANN ARBOR-- Deep inside a nondescript warehouse-like building on the edge of town, researchers at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency are working on a plan to improve the prospects of the American auto industry. EPA officials say a technology patented by the agency and dubbed the hydraulic hybrid system could give U.S. manufacturers an edge with increasingly fuel-conscious car consumers... ...In the 1990s, the Clinton administration and Detroit automakers teamed up to try to build prototypes of a family sedan that could average 80 miles a gallon using diesel-electric hybrid technology." http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051218/AUTO01/512180348/1148 it'd be nice to see some inventors that had the integrity to not "sell out" regards A On 2/28/06, William Mackin wrote: > This sounds like propaganda from someone trying to make money on > options?? > > > On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:07 AM, A Bodkin wrote: > > > Imagine hydraulics and bio in the new F-250's, for your review... > > > > http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/hydraulichybrid.html > > > > Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius > > 2.13.06 > > > > > > ---Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the > > implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic > > Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion > > engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. > > New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply > > amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely > > competitive full size pickup market. > > > > ---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the > > cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that > > move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, > > only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic > > cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact > > that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient > > way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the > > efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come > > close to Hydraulic Energy Storage. > > > > ---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is > > 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 > > with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg > > city rating, that's an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline > > version. > > > > ---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology > > because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this > > system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of > > numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The > > Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, > > can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for > > Ford to come through in the clutch. > > > > > > Funny we have to buy bigger vehicles to conserve energy... > > > > ~A > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > From brian at blueridgebiofuels.com Tue Feb 28 11:39:32 2006 From: brian at blueridgebiofuels.com (Brian) Date: Tue Feb 28 11:39:01 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Re: west german garage in cary? andlooking for D family car -- cheap! References: <410-22006212735425656@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <00b301c63c85$8d6ee5d0$6500a8c0@eMachines> Folks who have used this method here have reported injector clogging issues. You must use injector cleaner with every tank to prevent this from happening. I would only experiment with this method on older vehicles of low value. The formula goes something like this: 85% veg oil 10% kero 5% gasoline with injector cleaner, cetane booster, and their secret product, which is only naphthalene. Save your money and buy naphthalene from a chemical supplier. However, the quantities of naphthalene are so low that you have to wonder if the naphthalene part isn't a sales gimmick so that they can sell you their product. I can't remember the exact amount of Naphthalene, but I think its around an ounce per 10 gallons of mixture. With their "secret product", you get the secret formula that I listed above. Brian Blue Ridge Biofuels 109 Roberts Street Asheville, NC 28801 voice (828) 253-1034 fax (828) 253-3015 www.blueridgebiofuels.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "BENJAMIN F BARNES" To: "Rachel Burton" ; "BIG" Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Re: west german garage in cary? andlooking for D family car -- cheap! > > > I heard recently about a company Diesel Secret that claims to have a > process where you can take oils such as olive, canola, peanut etc filter > it > add their proprietary ingrediant and make fuel supposedly without the > drawbacks of biodiesel. Does anyone have any kowledge about this. I is > supposedly much cheaper and easier that getting started with biodiesel and > easier to make > > Ben Barnes > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > From hogarth at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 12:13:52 2006 From: hogarth at gmail.com (Susan Hogarth) Date: Tue Feb 28 12:13:51 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] Fwd: Oilstock issues Message-ID: <3889aa560602280913r62491045vcf78cff36ce92a36@mail.gmail.com> This is from another list interested in getting oil from algae. If you are interested, the group is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oil_from_algae/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: bob Date: Feb 28, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: [oil_from_algae] presumably this is exactly why we need to learn how to grow algae sooner rather than later To: oil_from_algae@yahoogroups.com "The growth in supply of oils and fats derived from crops such as soy and palms won't be enough to keep pace with accelerating demand, Thomas Mielke, an economist at Oil World research publication said. Stocks of the world's 17 main oils and fats will be 14.6 million metric tons by the end of the year, representing 10.2 percent of world consumption, he said in an interview Feb. 24 in Kuala Lumpur, while attending a conference. That compares with stocks of 14.5 million tons at the end of 2005, representing 10.7 percent of demand, Mielke said. ``Stocks are tightening every month, he said. ``There is a supply-demand deficit that is slowly worsening and the real impact is still to come. " from http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10001013&sid=aKVn6.VrmhEU&refer=commodity_futures From Cheryl.Ganter at pgnmail.com Tue Feb 28 12:36:05 2006 From: Cheryl.Ganter at pgnmail.com (Ganter, Cheryl) Date: Tue Feb 28 12:37:17 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] hydraulics and bio...? Message-ID: <354CA61AEBC6D944B4268F04D429FD868A1173@NT000836.oak.zone1.progress-energy.com> I agree. Let's see how long it takes them to mass market these new autos...They will come out with some lame date like " by 2015 "... Cheryl G. -----Original Message----- From: biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net [mailto:biofuels_interest_group-bounces@lists.emji.net] On Behalf Of A Bodkin Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:27 AM To: William Mackin Cc: Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net Subject: Re: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] hydraulics and bio...? I could go on all day with rancid remarks about the "big oil" influence on new technology... for instance, contributions to *environmental* causes that restrict or prevent more fuel efficient vehicles...perhaps the only thing limiting this Honda Accord in US markets... Diesel Accord sets world speed records [ See related stories ] May 7, 2004 "..The Honda Accord 2.2 i-CTDi Sport has set 19 world speed records in its class in a weekend of high-intensity driving - and then went on to achieve fuel economy of 3.07 litres/100km fuel economy.." http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=819&fArticleId=2002876 yea that is an incredible 90+ miles per gallon...but after catalytic converters and other non essential (for diesels) add on's are factored in it will bring fuel MPG's down to less than half... Government helping industry EPA turns innovator with hydraulic hybrids Carmakers would get edge in mpg race "..ANN ARBOR-- Deep inside a nondescript warehouse-like building on the edge of town, researchers at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency are working on a plan to improve the prospects of the American auto industry. EPA officials say a technology patented by the agency and dubbed the hydraulic hybrid system could give U.S. manufacturers an edge with increasingly fuel-conscious car consumers... ...In the 1990s, the Clinton administration and Detroit automakers teamed up to try to build prototypes of a family sedan that could average 80 miles a gallon using diesel-electric hybrid technology." http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051218/AUTO01/512180 348/1148 it'd be nice to see some inventors that had the integrity to not "sell out" regards A On 2/28/06, William Mackin wrote: > This sounds like propaganda from someone trying to make money on > options?? > > > On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:07 AM, A Bodkin wrote: > > > Imagine hydraulics and bio in the new F-250's, for your review... > > > > http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/hydraulichybrid.html > > > > Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius > > 2.13.06 > > > > > > ---Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the > > implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic > > Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion > > engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. > > New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply > > amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely > > competitive full size pickup market. > > > > ---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the > > cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that > > move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, > > only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic > > cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact > > that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient > > way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the > > efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come > > close to Hydraulic Energy Storage. > > > > ---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is > > 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 > > with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg > > city rating, that's an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline > > version. > > > > ---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology > > because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this > > system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of > > numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The > > Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, > > can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for > > Ford to come through in the clutch. > > > > > > Funny we have to buy bigger vehicles to conserve energy... > > > > ~A > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list > > Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net > > http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group > > _______________________________________________ Biofuels_Interest_Group mailing list Biofuels_Interest_Group@lists.emji.net http://lists.emji.net/mailman/listinfo/biofuels_interest_group From bknighton at nc.rr.com Sun Feb 26 13:59:36 2006 From: bknighton at nc.rr.com (Bill Knighton) Date: Thu Mar 2 18:26:38 2006 Subject: [Biofuels_Interest_Group] American Biofuels fire Message-ID: <4401FA98.70501@nc.rr.com> The fire at American Biofuels doesn't seem to be a big news item or topic of discussion. http://www.greenstarusa.com/news/06-02-21.html Will there likely be any new regulatory problems generated from this? Anyone know what happened to the blog aggregator?